What if the most important measure of success is not what you achieve, but who you become along the way?

In this episode of The Mike Method, Mike Desjardins sits down with Dr. David B. Wolf for a thoughtful and wide ranging conversation on self realization, leadership, and the pursuit of a meaningful life. David is a counselor, coach, and seminar leader who has been working in human transformation since the early 1980s. He is the founder of the Sat Phatov Institute, the creator of the Vedic Personality Inventory, a leader in mantra meditation research, and the author of Relationships at Work and The Power of Conscious Living.

Together, Mike and David explore what it means to encounter ourselves honestly and remember who we are as timeless spiritual beings living a very human life. They unpack why so many high achievers find themselves chasing goals, approval, and validation only to feel empty once they arrive. The conversation challenges the familiar pattern of have, do, be and invites a shift toward be, do, have, where goals become an expression of joy and purpose rather than a way to prove worth.

This episode dives into why comparison pulls us away from ourselves, how integrity and example form the foundation of real leadership, and why the journey itself holds more meaning than any finish line. David shares practical starting points for discovering purpose, including powerful questions to reflect on and questions to ask the people closest to you.

If you have ever reached a big milestone and felt unsettled afterward, or if you want to stay ambitious without losing yourself in the process, this conversation offers a grounded and refreshing perspective on success, leadership, and trust in the unfolding journey.

Episode Resources:

Books by David B. Wolf

Relationships that Work

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