[The UFO Rabbit Hole] An Interview with Mike Clelland: Owls, UFOs, and the Unfathomable Unseen
Jun 1, 2023
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In this podcast, Mike Clelland, author, illustrator, and researcher, discusses topics such as owl synchronicities in UFO abductions, the transformative nature of anomalous experiences, the use of owls as screen memories in UFO cases, and the motivation and writing process behind his latest book, 'The Unseen'. The podcast also touches on the challenges of understanding and accepting experiencer narratives and explores the concept of paradox syndrome and its overlap with weirdness and absurdity.
Synchronicities and owls often accompany UFO experiences, symbolizing deeper realities and mystic presence.
The Unseen by Mike Klelland explores esoteric themes and subjective experiences of UFO encounters through a pop culture lens.
Mac Tonnies's book, The Cryptoterrestrials, influenced Klelland's work and includes a fictionalized version of Tonnies character in The Unseen, highlighting the multi-layered narrative.
Deep dives
The Power of Synchronicities and Owls in UFO Experiences
Synchronicities and owls play a significant role in UFO experiences. These experiences often involve highly charged human events, and the owl acts as a messenger or symbol of deeper realities that coexist with our own. Many individuals report encountering owls in conjunction with UFO sightings or contact experiences. These owls are often described as having a profound and mystic presence, and their symbolism can be traced back to ancient cultures. The owl's ability to fly in the darkness of night has long been associated with metaphorically traveling into unknown realms and bringing back messages. Furthermore, many individuals who have had UFO and owl experiences report an increase in synchronicities and coincidences in their lives. These experiences are often transformative, leading to changes in spirituality and psychic abilities. All in all, the connection between synchronicities, owls, and UFO experiences suggests a deeper reality and mystery that defies rational explanation.
The Unseen: Exploring Esoteric Themes in Fiction
The Unseen, a work of fiction by Mike Klelland, delves into esoteric themes and metaphoric narratives without explicitly using terms like UFO or abduction. The book tells the story of mysterious events and synchronicities through a pop culture lens, while also exploring deeper ideas of initiation, gods, goddesses, and life after death. Klelland's intention is to present a story that resonates on multiple levels, inviting readers to tap into the emotions and internal experiences portrayed by the characters. By focusing on the subjective experiences and emotions associated with UFO encounters, Klelland aims to capture the awe, terror, and immersion in the mystery that individuals often feel when confronted with the unexplained. The Unseen serves as a reminder that the exploration of metaphysical realms and the extraordinary is an integral part of the human experience.
Mac Tony's and the Influence of his Work
Mac Tony's, a researcher and author, had a significant impact on Mike Klelland's work and the writing of The Unseen. Although Tony's is no longer alive, his contributions continue to shape the field of UFO research. Tony's book, The Crypto Terrestrials, meditates on indigenous humanoids and the presence of aliens among us. The ideas and themes explored by Tony's inspired Klelland to include a fictionalized version of Tony's character, named Tim Bernal, in The Unseen. This representation pays homage to Tony's work and helps weave a multi-layered narrative that intertwines real-life inspirations and metaphysical concepts with a fictionalized storyline. Tony's legacy in the field of UFO research is one of questioning established beliefs and looking beyond the surface level of events, encouraging readers and researchers to explore the hidden depths of the unexplained.
The Transformational Nature of Anomalous Experiences
An important aspect of anomalous experiences, as discussed in the podcast, is their transformational nature. The speaker, while acknowledging the limitations of scientific inquiry, emphasizes the valuable personal and spiritual impact of these encounters. The speaker shares their own experience of how these encounters have profoundly changed them and highlights the outreach they receive from listeners who have also been affected. It is emphasized that understanding and acknowledging the transformative aspect of anomalous experiences is essential, even if it cannot be measured or studied scientifically.
The Paradox Syndrome and the Power of Stories
The podcast discusses the Paradox Syndrome, where individuals share confusing and open-ended accounts of their experiences. These accounts often lack a clear narrative structure but are filled with absurd or unexplainable elements. Rather than seeking definitive answers, the speaker suggests that the power lies in storytelling and narrative interpretation. They draw parallels with Zen koans and metaphorical storytelling, emphasizing that these enigmatic experiences resonate deeply on a personal level. The speaker also explores the concept of collective consciousness and the role of symbolism, such as owl encounters, as ways to access a deeper reality beyond traditional understanding.
In this episode, I spoke with author, illustrator, and researcher, Mike Clelland. Mike is the author of several books, two of which we’ll be discussing directly in this episode. The first is The Messengers: Owls, Synchronicity, and the UFO Abductee. The second is his latest release, The Unseen, which is a fiction book that deals with many of the themes of his other work. He also provided the illustrations for the book The Cryptoterrestrials: A Meditation on Indigenous Humanoids and the Aliens Among Us by Mac Tonnies, that we’ll also be discussing in this episode. You can find links to all of his work below.
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