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Recode Decode: Casey Newton and Louie Swisher

May 18, 2020

Tech reporter Casey Newton, known for his deep insights into Facebook's moderation, joins Louie Swisher, who reflects on his digital experiences during the pandemic. They dive into the rising influence of tech giants like Facebook and Amazon and discuss the complexities of remote learning. Newton shares the harrowing effects of content moderation on workers, leading to a notable settlement. The conversation also touches on the future of virtual interactions and the ongoing debate over the relevancy of movie theaters in a streaming-dominated world.

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Episode guests

Louie Swisher

Casey Newton

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Episode notes

Intro

2min

Navigating Virtual Learning and Connection

15min

Power Dynamics of Tech Giants

8min

Big Tech and Essential Workers During the Pandemic

12min

Navigating Reopening and Tech Adaptation During a Pandemic

4min

Social Media Dynamics in a Changing World

16min

Exploring the Future of Content Moderation and Tech Responsibility

6min

Recode's Kara Swisher talks with the Verge's Casey Newton and her older son, Louie Swisher, about how the COVID-19 pandemic and quarantine has affected their tech habits. They also discuss Louie's remote final months of high school, the future of video conferencing, and the growing power of tech giants such as Facebook and Amazon. Newton also talks about his reporting on Facebook moderators who developed PTSD on the job, which led to a recent $52 million settlement. Plus: What is everyone watching and playing to pass the time, and are movie theaters dead?

Featuring:

Casey Newton (@CaseyNewton), tech reporter at The Verge and writer of The Interface

Louie Swisher

Host:

Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), Recode co-founder and editor-at-large

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