Dadville with Dave Barnes and Jon McLaughlin Aim for a B+ With Lee C. Camp
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Jun 23, 2026 
Lee C. Camp, a theology and ethics professor who hosts No Small Endeavor, talks candidly about his midlife depression and family reckonings. He shares his 85% rule for parenting, living without a cell phone as a "serenity tax," and reflections on virtues and aging. Short, personal stories about sons, therapy, and iterative growth make the conversation both raw and uplifting.
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How No Small Endeavor Evolved From Live Shows
- No Small Endeavor began as live variety shows and shifted to long-form interviews during the 2020 pandemic.
- That pivot led to a Nashville Public Radio deal and later national syndication, expanding Lee C. Camp's reach.
Lee's Midlife Spiral Into Depression
- Lee C. Camp describes a multi-year spiral into depression around ages 46–47 tied to family health scares and unresolved personal issues.
- He credits therapy and later work on shame and comparison for helping him emerge and find new vocational clarity.
EMDR Broke Through Years Of Pain
- He tried EMDR therapy during the crisis and experienced an intense session with sobbing and release that clarified his next work.
- That work became pursuing a healthier freedom from worrying what others think.
