Roundup: DOGE's Power Checked; Vance's Role Evolves
Mar 7, 2025
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In a cabinet meeting, President Trump clarifies that while DOGE can advise, Elon Musk lacks firing power over staffers. The discussion shifts to Vice President JD Vance's unconventional approach, actively engaging in international matters and challenging traditional roles. The podcast also touches on the surprising influence of Dogecoin on government budgets and real estate. Finally, it offers lighthearted anecdotes, including a whimsical toddler's call for emergency donuts and a tribute to Carl Dean's support for Dolly Parton.
The Trump administration's DOGE initiative claims inflated savings figures, highlighting concerns about transparency and effectiveness in federal spending.
Vice President J.D. Vance's evolving role emphasizes a more active and controversial vice presidency, showcasing ambition for future political prominence.
Deep dives
Doge and Government Savings Claims
The Trump administration's efforts through the Doge entity to claim substantial savings for taxpayers are scrutinized. Official statements suggest that Doge has saved around $105 billion through layoffs and terminated contracts. However, independent analysis indicates that these savings figures are significantly inflated, as they often include financial instruments that do not result in actual monetary savings. The discrepancies reveal that the so-called savings are a trivial fraction of the federal budget, casting doubt on the overall effectiveness of Doge's initiatives in reducing government expenditure.
Doge's Impact on Government Real Estate
Doge's activities also extend to the management of federal real estate, where recent attempts to identify properties for sale generated confusion. A list of government buildings reportedly considered for sale included major locations like the Justice Department, but was quickly removed after being published. The implications of these actions suggest a lack of clarity and transparency regarding governmental property sales, exacerbating concerns about the legitimacy and accountability of the Doge operations. Thus far, the public remains in the dark about which assets may indeed become available for sale.
J.D. Vance's Role in the Trump Administration
Vice President J.D. Vance is emerging as a prominent figure within the Trump administration, distinctly contrasting the roles of past vice presidents who often operated in the background. Vance has engaged in provocative rhetoric, challenging international leaders and promoting controversial positions, effectively positioning himself as a confidant and supporter of Trump's agenda. This aggressive approach may reflect Vance's ambition to carve out a more significant political identity, particularly with an eye toward future elections and leadership within the Republican party. His statements highlight a shift in how vice-presidential roles can evolve, especially in a high-profile administration like Trump's.
In a cabinet meeting this week, President Trump affirmed that while DOGE — the entity meant to reshape the federal government, with Elon Musk as figurehead — has the ability to advise changes, Musk does not have the power to fire government staffers.
Then, a look at how Vice President JD Vance has started to reshape the role of the vice presidency.
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