In a cabinet meeting this week, President Trump affirmed that while DOGE — the entity meant to reshape the federal government, with Elon Musk as figurehead — has the ability to advise changes, Musk does not have the power to fire government staffers.

Then, a look at how Vice President JD Vance has started to reshape the role of the vice presidency.

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