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20VC: Why the IPO Market is not Closed | Why Revenue Multiples are BS and Founders Need to Change | Advice From Jack Ma, Jamie Dimon and Evan Spiegel | Lessons from Taking Snap & Alibaba Public with Imran Khan

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Aug 26, 2024

Imran Khan, Founder and Chief Investment Officer of Proem Asset Management and former Chief Strategy Officer at Snap Inc., shares his expertise on the IPO market and startup valuations. He discusses why revenue multiples are misleading and emphasizes the need for founders to adapt their strategies. Imran also critiques the current M&A landscape and how regulatory pressures hinder deal-making. With insights drawn from his experience with Alibaba and Snap, he provides invaluable advice about sustainability and investor expectations in today's market.

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INSIGHT

Why IPOs Are Slow

Founders' high valuation expectations and systemic issues hinder IPOs.
Allocators prioritize reducing volatility by investing in privates and market-neutral funds, limiting returns.

ADVICE

Focus on Value Creation

Founders should prioritize building a valuable business over short-term valuation.
Go public earlier to build relationships with investors and get market feedback.

INSIGHT

Mercenaries vs. Missionaries

Stock price volatility can reveal company culture flaws.
Hire missionaries, not mercenaries, who believe in long-term missions.

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Imran Khan is the OG of IPOs having taken some of the biggest companies public including Alibaba, Snap, Box, Weibo and more. Today, Imran is the founder and Chief Investment Officer of Proem Asset Management. Prior to co-founding Proem, Imran served as Snap Inc.’s Chief Strategy Officer. Under his leadership, Snap’s annual revenue run rate increased to $1.6 billion from zero in less than four years. Previously, Imran was a Managing Director and Head of Global Internet Investment Banking at Credit Suisse where he advised on more than $45 billion-worth of Internet M&A and financing transactions.

In Today's Episode with Imran Khan We Discuss:

1. The IPO Market: When Does it Open:

How does Imran assess the state of the IPO market today?
Can companies really go out with $100-$200M in revenue?
Will we see revenue multiples reflate? Can venture continue as an asset class if they do not?
When does Imran expect the IPO market to really open?

2. Is M&A F******:

How does Imran assess the state of the M&A market today?
How do founders need to change how they think about M&A? Why are they to blame for the lack of M&A activity we have today?
To what extent can we blame Lina Khan for the lack of M&A?
Why would a company go do an M&A process today when it is unlikely to be approved by the SEC?
Why does Imran believe in the case of Wiz, it was a mistake for the company not to do the M&A?

3. AI's $600BN Question: Capex Spend:

How does Imran analyse the insane capex spend we are seeing from Meta, Google and Amazon?
How does Zuck not having his cash cow as the cloud business change how he can act?
How does this compare to Google's capex spend 20 years ago? What can we learn from that?

4. Going Public: The Process, The Players and Jack Ma & Jamie Dimon:

What is the literal process to take a company public?
Who sets the price? What do large institutions want in companies going public?
What are some of Imran's biggest lessons from taking Snap and Alibaba public?
What are some of Imran's biggest lessons from Jack Ma, Jamie Dimon and Evan Spiegel?