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Litigating Immigration (with Joyce Vance and Lee Gelernt)

Jan 6, 2025
Lee Gelernt, Deputy Director of the ACLU Immigrants’ Rights Project and a formidable litigator in immigration law, joins Joyce Vance to dissect the potential legal aftermath of Trump's proposed immigration policies. They delve into the traumatic effects of past family separation strategies and the ethical concerns surrounding them. The conversation also highlights the contentious debate over birthright citizenship and the implications of law enforcement changes under the Insurrection Act. Gelernt emphasizes the vital role of community activism in shaping humane immigration reforms.
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Quick takeaways

  • The family separation policy during Trump's first term severely traumatized children and parents, raising ethical concerns about immigration strategies.
  • Trump's proposed immigration policies, including mass deportations and revocation of birthright citizenship, risk significant legal challenges and community pushback.

Deep dives

The Impact of Family Separation Policies

The family separation policy implemented during Donald Trump's first term had devastating effects, traumatizing both children and parents. Reports indicate that more than 6,000 children were separated from their families, with many young children left crying for their parents. This policy was framed as a deterrent to illegal immigration, though it resulted in immense psychological damage to families, as children feared being taken away again. The long-lasting consequences of this trauma continue to affect reunified families, raising concerns about the ethical implications of such immigration strategies.

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