This week, Sam and Dave are joined by a very special guest: Synthetic Fidji. Yes, an AI version of Fidji Simo, created after the real one politely declined (hey, the show must go on, okay?).

They get into:

the bull and bear case for vibe coding
Gemini vs. GPT (is Sam having second thoughts?)
why GitHub might be quietly, ruthlessly winning the AI dev race
the identity crisis no one’s cracked with LLMs

Plus: OpenAI just spent $6 billion on hardware to team up with Jony Ive, the MEO phone is suddenly everywhere, and more.

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00:00 Introduction

01:24 OpenAI CEO of Applications?

07:55 Tools that ACTUALLY work

18:47 Is everyone lying about vibe coding?

43:10 The big identity problem with LLMs (and Zapier)

52:26 Google I/O: "Who cares?"

54:13 Is OpenAI big tech? They buy Jony Ive's startup

56:17 The "hyper-viral" Methaphone. How?

59:40 Outro

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