Today we'll be talking to Anne Kretzschmar. She’s a coordinator with the Stay Grounded network which works on a global level to reduce air traffic and build a climate-just transport system. They recently published a paper entitled  ‘A Rapid and Just Transition of Aviation: Shifting towards climate-just mobility‘ which was a big part of our conversation.

Topics discussed:

• Social and environmental costs of airport projects
• The problem behind ‘carbon offsetting’
• Looking for just alternatives
• Tackling tax exemption for aviation
• How flying is already unjust
• The problem of frequent flyers
• Implementing actual limits (frequent flyer levee)
• Europe’s lack of international booking for trains
• Trains can also be a problem (example of Maya Train project in Mexico)
• Wider question of asking what kind of mobility do we need and wand and how can we distribute it in a just way
• Taking the topic of jobs and labor seriously
• Impact of COVID-19 on aviation and what might come next
• Degrowth
• Change by Design or by Disaster
• Green New Deal for Gatwick
• How ‘bailouts’ rarely actually support those most impacted by industry losses
• Alternative tourisms
• The importance of internationality and the centrality of environmental justice
• Supporting critical aviator workers
• Airport-related Injustice and Resistance map

Recommended Books:

• Vision on Fire: Emma Goldman on the Spanish Revolution
• Re:Imagining Change: How to Use Story-based Strategy to Win Campaigns, Build Movements, and Change the World by Patrick Reinsborough and Doyle Canning
• A Message From the Future II: The Years of Repair by Naomi Klein video by Molly Crabapple, Opal Tometi, Avi Lewis