The Lawfare Podcast Scaling Laws: Sen. Scott Wiener on California Senate Bill 53
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Oct 24, 2025 
California State Senator Scott Wiener, a key figure in AI safety legislation, dives into the intricacies of Senate Bill 53 now signed into law. He discusses the lessons learned from the controversial SB 1047 and addresses prevalent concerns from constituents about AI's impact on jobs and mental health. Wiener also elaborates on the bill's provisions, emphasizing transparency and whistleblower protections. The conversation touches on California's leadership role in tech regulation and the ongoing need for federal action in a rapidly evolving landscape.
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Local Tech Community Sparked Policy Action
- Senator Scott Wiener started working on AI safety after AI experts in his district urged him to explore policy solutions.
- He engaged dinners and salons with AI researchers to understand risks and craft legislation.
SB 1047 Created Its Own Weather System
- SB 1047 became a national flashpoint and provoked intense debate beyond its text.
- Wiener did not expect the bill to create "its own weather system" and found the process painful.
Publish Drafts And Respond To Feedback
- Be transparent during policymaking: publish intent drafts and solicit diverse feedback early.
- Amend bills in response to credible concerns, notably on open source and shutdown switches.