Adam Gopnik, a New Yorker staff writer, discusses the alarming parallels between Hitler's rise to power and current political situations in the US, emphasizing charismatic leadership, shamelessness, and the creation of imaginary enemies. The conversation delves into Trump's authoritarian behavior, threats to democracy, and the importance of safeguarding democratic principles.
Both Hitler and Trump rely on charisma over ideology, appealing to followers through personal magnetism and grievances.
Voting based on fear and resentment, rather than rational policy considerations, can lead to dangerous demagogic leadership.
Deep dives
Similarities Between Trump and Hitler in Leadership Style
Both Hitler and Trump exhibit charismatic leadership styles without adhering to a fixed ideology, relying on personal magnetism to sway their followers. While Hitler's motivations stemmed from personal resentments and humiliations, such as being rejected from art school, Trump's appeal lies in his ability to stoke hatred towards certain groups while lacking clear positive doctrines.
Comparison of German and American Public Sentiments
The podcast compares the elections in Weimar Germany to the political climate in 2016 and potentially in 2024 in the United States. It parallels how people in both situations voted along traditional party lines, often fueled by imaginary enemies portrayed by demagogic leaders. This underscores the dangers of voting based on fear and resentment rather than rational policy considerations.
Threat to Liberal Democracy and the Role of Institutions
The discussion delves into the fragility of liberal democracy, emphasizing that the threat posed by demagogues like Trump lies in eroding the foundations of democracy. It highlights the need for institutions to take decisive action, not just procedural measures, to safeguard against authoritarian inclinations. The analogy with historical events warns against complacency in the face of growing authoritarianism.
In 2016, before most people imagined that Donald Trump would become a serious contender for the Presidency, the New Yorker staff writer Adam Gopnik wrote about what he later called the “F-word”: fascism. He saw Trump’s authoritarian rhetoric not as a new force in America but as a throwback to a specific historical precedent in nineteen-thirties Europe. In the years since, Trump has called for “terminating” articles of the Constitution, has marked the January 6th insurrectionists as political martyrs, and has called his enemies animals, vermin, and “not people,” and demonstrated countless other examples of authoritarian behavior. In a new essay, Gopnik reviews a book by the historian Timothy W. Ryback, and considers Adolf Hitler’s unlikely ascent in the early nineteen-thirties. He finds alarming analogies with this moment in the U.S. In both Trump and Hitler, “The allegiance to the fascist leader is purely charismatic,” Gopnik says. In both men, he sees “someone whose power lies in his shamelessness,” and whose prime motivation is a sense of humiliation at the hands of those described as élites. “It wasn’t that the great majority of Germans were suddenly lit aflame by a nihilist appetite for apocalyptic transformation,” Gopnik notes. “They [were] voting to protect what they perceive as their interest from their enemies. Often those enemies are largely imaginary.”