The China-Global South Podcast China's Place in the New Post-American International Order
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Jan 23, 2026 
In this engaging discussion, Zongyuan Zoe Liu, a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, unpacks the implications of Mark Carney's bold declaration about a global rupture in the order. She highlights how China is navigating its role as a potential peer to the U.S. without provoking conflict. Liu also delves into China's strategies for reshaping global norms, the myths surrounding the debt-trap narrative, and the struggle for credibility in the Global South. Her insights provide a compelling view of China's evolving landscape in a post-American world.
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Rupture In The Rules-Based Order
- Mark Carney declares a rupture in the rules-based international order driven by weaponized economic integration.
- He warns that integration becomes dangerous when it creates subordination through tariffs, financial infrastructure, or supply chains.
China’s Three-Pronged Response
- China benefited massively from the U.S.-led order but now feels constrained as it rises.
- Beijing seeks to reform institutions, build South-led platforms, or go it alone when Western concessions stall.
Why China’s Price Power Persists
- Chinese exporters gain advantage from state-backed certainty, subsidies, and integrated supply chains.
- That edge makes it hard for other countries to climb manufacturing value chains in a fragmented world.