This is part one of two of Suzanne's conversation with Enneagram 8, Tony Jones. Tony jokingly second guesses his enneagram number in the beginning of today's show, but as each minute passes, you'll be able to laugh harder at the idea of him not being an 8!

People sometimes have a difficult time hearing the truth from 8s, but Tony does a great job of laying it all out there in this episode on behalf of his fellow 8s.

Tony Jones is the author of Did God Kill Jesus? Searching for Love in History’s Most Famous Execution, theologian, and speaker. He is a leading figure in the emerging church movement and in postmodern Christianity.