ChinaTalk China's Cyber Strengths + How to Analyze Policy
Jun 19, 2021
Dave Aitel, a seasoned offensive cybersecurity expert and former NSA member, dives into the nuances of cyber policy. He discusses his quest to read every cyber policy paper and highlights the persistent blind spots in the field. Aitel reveals how China’s cyber capabilities compare to the U.S., showcasing insights from the Tianfu Cup. He also shares his unique take on the immersive language learning potential of gaming, particularly through Cyberpunk 2077, emphasizing its cultural significance despite some gameplay frustrations.
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Unexpected Visit from the Department of Commerce
- Dave Aitel's company, which sold penetration testing products, was visited by the Department of Commerce.
- They informed him of a new rule impacting his business due to the dual-use nature of his products.
Jiu-Jitsu Analogy
- The Commerce Department team member who visited Dave Aitel's company had cauliflower ears.
- They bonded over jiu-jitsu, which Aitel uses as an analogy for cyber policy.
Cyber Policy Stagnation
- Cyber policy has stagnated, with papers from 20 years ago still relevant today.
- This lack of progress is depressing given the significant challenges in cyber policy.