Episode 151: Reflections and Revelations: Best of 2023
Dec 27, 2023
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Guests include Blake Samic from Uber and Stripe discussing product operations, Hubert Palan on standardization of product management, and Jason Fried of 37 Signals on keeping product teams fresh and relevant. Other topics include the importance of tough skills, prioritizing people and process, and why startups fail.
Importance of standardization and connection between product teams and go-to-market/compliance teams in scaling tech companies.
Working in shorter timeframes and completing complete ideas to ensure product teams remain fresh and relevant.
Deep dives
Setting up Product Operations
Blake Samick, head of product operations at OpenAI, shares insights on setting up product operations at Uber and Stripe. He discusses the similarities in scaling tech companies, the importance of streamlining feedback channels, and the need for standardization and connection between product teams and go-to-market/compliance teams.
Standardization and Consistency in Product Management
Hubert Palen, founder and CEO of product board, highlights the importance of standardization in product management. He emphasizes the need for consistent methodologies and decision-making processes to ensure reliable services and better portfolio management. The rise of product operations and a more rigorous approach to product management is seen as a way to achieve predictability and leadership in the product organization.
Freshness and Relevance in Product Teams
Jason Fried, founder of NCEO of 37 Signals, introduces the concept of working in six-week cycles to ensure product teams remain fresh and relevant. He emphasizes the flexibility of choosing what to work on without being locked into long-term plans, advocating against strict two-week sprints and promoting the completion of complete ideas in shorter timeframes.
In this special episode of Product Thinking, host Melissa Perri takes a look back at what we have learned from some of our top guests across product management, operations, and leadership, featuring:
Blake Samic speaks about setting up product operations during his time at Uber and Stripe.
Hubert Palan shares the Standardization of Product Management and how the Product Operations Function creates consistency.
Jason Fried of 37 Signals outlines how they ensure product teams remain fresh and relevant without getting stuck in the details.
Glen Stoffel and Caryn Fried unveil how tough skills are important when creating great product managers.
Stephanie Leue dives into the necessity of prioritizing people, purpose, process, and performance in Product Management.
Tom Eisenmann, Professor at Harvard Business School, provides a deep dive into why startups fail.
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You’ll hear them talk about:
Blake Samic - Initially skeptical about the relevance of product operations at Stripe, based on his experience at Uber, Blake's perspective changed upon deeper engagement with the company. He recognized numerous parallels in the challenges both companies faced, especially in scaling tech operations. Both were rapidly expanding, not just geographically, but in their product offerings and market strategies. Also, both companies shared a deep ambition in product engineering, with a relentless focus on shipping high-quality products. Stripe, in particular, set an exceptionally high bar for quality.
Hubert Palan - The evolution of product management is on the horizon, with a change towards greater standardization similar to practices seen in sales, customer success, and engineering. Historically, product teams have enjoyed a degree of autonomy, embracing individualized methods and tools, which fostered innovation but often led to inconsistencies and challenges in decision-making and portfolio management at a larger scale. The emergence of a product operations function signals a change in this landscape and the need for a more uniform approach to product management. Such standardization is crucial for enhancing predictability and effective leadership within the product organization, ensuring a balance between innovative autonomy and strategic alignment.
Jason Fried - Jason's approach to project management prioritizes flexibility and efficiency, as shown by the six-week work cycle. By limiting any task or feature to a maximum of six weeks for completion, Jason and his team relieve the stress and rigidity that comes from long-term planning, such as two-year roadmaps. This timeframe is not only manageable but also adaptable, allowing us to respond to changes and prioritize different tasks without being overly committed to pre-set plans.
Glen Stoffel and Caryn Fried - As product managers evolve towards CPO roles, a critical skill often overlooked for success is facilitation. While strong product professionals typically excel in vision and strategy, understanding the complex connections between different aspects of the customer and employee experience, they risk falling into the trap of control rather than collaboration.
Stephanie Leue - Recognizing the need for a shift towards a product-led approach, Stephanie decided to avoid past mistakes by ensuring data-driven and customer-feedback-oriented product releases and deprecations. Her strategy focused on four pivotal areas: people, purpose, process, and performance. She highlights to her teams that performance is a result of excellence in the first three areas.
Tom Eisenmann - Tom's book identifies six common failure patterns that startups encounter, divided into early and late stages. Early-stage challenges, occurring before a startup achieves product-market fit, include False Starts, Bad Bedfellows, and False Positives. In the later stage, post-product market fit, startups face Speed Trap, Help Wanted, and Cascading Miracles.
Previous guests include: Shruti Patel of US Bank,Steve Wilson of Contrast Security, Bethany Lyons of KAWA Analytics, Tanya Johnson Chief Product Officer at Auror, Tom Eisenmann of Harvard Business School, Stephanie Leue of Doodle, Jason Fried of 37signals, Hubert Palan of Productboard, Blake Samic of Stripe and Uber, Quincy Hunte of Amazon Web Services