Oh, you guys. This conversation…

It’s not often Matt and I (Laurie) are surprised by our guests, but we were surprised in the best way today.

Podcaster, author, and boss-mom, Jamie Ivey, and pastor, author, and tender-hearted dad, Aaron Ivey, got real—like really real.

Matt and I were going along, simply enjoying the conversation with these incredibly humble and kind people, and then Therapist Matt asks a question about how childhood wounding relates to marriage pain. (Way to go, counselor!) We suddenly took a left turn, and found ourselves talking about Aaron’s recent clinical depression diagnosis. 

What contributed to it? 

How did Jamie respond? 

What if we have been feeling similarly this last year, but are sick of people saying, “Oh yes, everyone is depressed. It’s 2020/21.”

Ooo, friends. This is a rich one. 

// Highlights:

“Oneness takes work.” -Laurie Krieg

“[Our] friendship turned into deep abiding love, and that’s what’s kept us through the whole [marriage].” -Aaron Ivey

“My advice would be….to pray. [It] would really, really be to pray. And no pray, ‘Oh that they come around,’ or whatever, but pray that they fall in love with Jesus. Because I honestly think that [in] falling in love with Jesus, a lot of the pieces that we’re wanting to get fixed, they fall into place that way.” -Jamie Ivey

“Single people need to hear and understand: You have value and purpose and there’s something that God has for you to do right now in your singleness. Because if you can wrap your mind around that, then marriage won’t be this thing that you feel like you can finally get to and THEN do something awesome with your life.” -Aaron Ivey

“There is no shame with mental health. None.” -Aaron Ivey

// Do the Next Thing:

Check out the Iveys’ book!

Jamie mentioned interviewing Aaron on her podcast. Find that episode here!

Also—here’s that one time Jamie interviewed us!