

Hole in My Heart Podcast
Laurie Krieg
On the Hole in My Heart Podcast, Laurie Krieg, her licensed-therapist husband, Matt, and their friend ”and most professional radio voice,” Producer Steve talk about how the gospel is good news for everyone every day. They most frequently talk about sexuality, addiction, trauma, discipleship, parenting, and mental health through a historically biblical sexual ethic lens, and with a bit of humor.
Episodes
Mentioned books

Sep 12, 2025 • 47min
Episode 245: A New Tool To Help the Next Generation | Preston Sprinkle
It’s hard to meet a parent of young kids today who isn’t desperately wondering how to equip their kids for this sexually broken world.
Thankfully, God is calling people to resource parents to equip their kids with a gospel vision for human sexuality, including a massive parenting discipleship project.
It is called Christian Sexuality: Raising Kids, and you can hear the behind-the-scenes details with friend, author, and theologian Dr. Preston Sprinkle today on the podcast!
Next Steps:
• Preorder the series here.
• Join the HIMH Pod FB group here.
• Laurie’s IG here.
• Watch here.

Aug 29, 2025 • 33min
Episode 244: The Day I Knew I Was Burned Out | Steve, Matt, Laurie
Burnout. Maybe you’ve experienced it—or maybe you’re in it right now and can’t quite name it yet.
All we see is:
1 . Emotional exhaustion
2. Autopilot living or cynicism
3. Loss of fulfillment
Yup. That’s burnout. How can we heal from it? How does it affect our relationship with God? And how can we move forward with hope?
| Next Steps |
• Forbes article (with a quiz) here.
• Psychology Today article here.
• The app Steve mentioned here.
• Join the HIMH Pod FB group here.
• Connect with Laurie here.

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May 23, 2025 • 41min
Episode 243: Family Devotions Don’t Have To Be Hard | Ruth Chou Simons
It’s our season wrap episode, and we could not have asked for a better guest.
Ruth is a teacher and author, and she knows the real-life challenges of helping kids to and parents to turn their hearts toward God.
How can we practice something like family devotions without it feeling too forced?
What if husbands and wives are on different pages about how to lead the family spiritually?
Is structure helpful or hurtful?
Let’s dive in.
| Next Steps |
Ruth’s site here.
Her IG here.
This book here.
Her new book here.
Join the HIMH Pod FB group here.
Sign up to get on the HIMH email list here.

May 9, 2025 • 1h 6min
Episode 242: The Gap between Our Experience and our Faith | Michael John Cusick
THIS EPISODE.
We literally cried. All of us. And it led to a mentoring relationship between Matt and our guest, Michael John Cusick.
Why? We were struck thinking about how to *actually live* in that tension between our faith and our experience.
Join us?
Next Steps:
Michael’s site here.
His book here.
Join the HIMH Pod FB group here.
Follow Laurie on IG (where she is the most active) here.

Apr 25, 2025 • 43min
Episode 241: Ministering to Families in Crisis | Jennifer Ripley
As ministry leaders and therapists (Matt and Laurie), we have often wondered: When do church leaders and pastors utilize therapists and para-church ministries and when do they care on their own?
Do pastors always outsource?
Do they never outsource?
What role does the church have for families in crisis?
Let’s talk about it with author and psychologist (and lover of the Church), Jennifer Ripley.
| Highlights |
“The church…will bring you casseroles, but when a crisis shows up, we often don’t know what to do.”
“Pastors have a role in a person’s life that a therapist or medical doctor does not have.”
“A Church community can provide healing in ways that others cannot. I can provide that somewhat as a therapist…but a whole community that holds people and gives them opportunities for growth? That’s beautiful.”
| QOTW |
What was your favorite children’s book while growing up?
| Next Steps |
Her book here.
Join the HIMH Pod FB group here.
Follow Laurie on IG (where she is the most active) here.
Sign up to get on the email list here.

Apr 11, 2025 • 48min
Episode 240: How to Help Our Kids Navigate A Porn-Saturated World | John-Michael Bout
If the average age of pornography exposure is between 8 and 12 years old, and the majority of Christians are looking at it regularly, we need to talk about it.
Specifically, documentary creator and author John Michael Bout helps us ask and answer:
How can we help our kids prepare to see it?
How can we help them recover?
What hope do we have?
| Highlights |
“Parents are often like, ‘We live in a technological world. I know there is pornography out there. I have no idea what to do!” We can throw our hands in the air, and bury our heads in the sand. I always want to say to parents, ‘Yeah, this is hard. This is challenging. We live in a unique time. But God has given you everything you need to talk about sexuality.”
“At the heart of every situation where there is pornography going on, there are good and holy desires. They are finding their end in a counterfeit—in the wrong thing.”
“There are good studies to show that the first person to teach on the topic will become the expert. As a parent, you want to be the expert when it comes to questions of sexuality.”
| QOTW |
What is something you have purchased off a cookie ad or As Seen on TV and it was actually good?
| Next Steps |
The trailer here.
The site here.
Join the HIMH Pod FB group here.
Follow Laurie on IG (where she is the most active) here.
Sign up to get on the email list here.

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Mar 28, 2025 • 39min
Episode 239: How to Form a Gospel-Identity in the Next Gen | Jonathan Holmes
It’s so easy to identify as “I am what I do” or “I am how I feel.”
The next generations especially seem to feel this pull.
How can we help Gen Z and Alpha understand who they are in Christ? How can we start with our own identity so we speak from a place of firm-footing instead of hypocrisy? Author and therapist Jonathan Holmes is here to help lead us.
| Highlights |
“A gospel identity is one that is received and not achieved.” —Jonathan Holmes
“All of us parents can struggle with wanting to make our kids into our image, rather than helping them fulfill and live into their image-bearing capacity.”
“God’s first words about sexuality are ones of invitation not prohibition.” —Jonathan Holmes
| QOTW|
If you had the time and the desire, what sport would you want to get really good at?
| Next Steps |
His IG here.
His book here.
Join the HIMH Pod FB group here.
Sign up to get on the email list here.

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Mar 14, 2025 • 46min
Episode 238: Screens: From Fighting to Flourishing | Chris McKenna
Many parents feel a mixture of emotions about screens: On one hand, we see they can be useful tools. On the other, we feel a lot of shame because we are probably addicted to them ourselves and we let our kids use them too often.
We feel shame, anger, and . . . gratitude?
How should we feel?
How can parents approach screen time with their kids—and move us all from fighting to flourishing?
Christian dad, tech-guru, and founder of Protect Young Eyes, Chris McKenna, is here to help us.
| Highlights |
“Some of the loudest voices advocating for our children are coming not from the Church.” —Chris McKenna
“There is no other issue on earth today that is at risk for darkening the hearts of our children than their digital spaces. It must be the thing we talk about second most to Jesus Christ.” —Chris McKenna
“This is Brain against the Game—not Kid versus Parent. If our child acts wild after stopping a game or show, our instinct is to think, ‘This is my kid is fighting back against me and being disobedient.’ That stirs up anger and confrontation between us. But if parents can remember, ‘That game is harming them. I am going to be upset at the *game* because of what it is doing to my precious child.’ That pivots our anger into empathy.” —Chris McKenna
| Next Steps |
Follow Protect Young Eyes on IG here.
Read Protect Young Eyes Resources here.
Join the HIMH Pod FB group here.
Follow Laurie on IG (where she is the most active) here.
Sign up to get on the email list here.

Feb 28, 2025 • 47min
Episode 237: Parenting Without Panic | Rachel Gilson
Parents and caregivers of the next generation need help to lead their kids in an affirming-LGBTQ world.
Our guest and author, Rachel Gilson, said it well on today’s episode: “Even my friends who had great discipling moms and dads didn’t grow up in this cultural moment. Their moms and dads didn’t have to help them navigate these cultural questions.”
She continued: “So even they feel out on a limb: ‘No one prepped me for this.’ There is a panic of feeling without a guide and lost. That’s no one’s fault but it’s where a lot of us find ourselves now.”
Parents were not prepared for this. How do we live and teach the next generation wisely?
We also talk discuss:
How do we engage this topic not with a culture-warrior mentality but a Jesus mentality?
When do we talk about sex and sexuality?
How can we teach our kids a gospel identity?
| Highlights |
“We are made for love, but for love that is richer and deeper and thicker than our culture is currently telling us it is.”
“If I talk about sex and sexuality in a way that is calm and confident, I am going to signal to my daughter that she is never going to be shamed for asking questions, and that she is not going to cause me to curl up into embarrassment and fear.
“I worked as a campus minister with college students for a long time. I kept asking the kids who grew up in Christian households and came to university and who were strong in the faith, ‘Why did you not get inoculated to the gospel? How did this become real to you?’ The number one answer I heard over and over and over again was, ‘It was real for my parents. As in, when they did something wrong, they asked for forgiveness.’”**
| QOTW |
What generation do you actually belong to and which one should you belong to?
| Next Steps |
Snag Rachel’s book here
See her site here: https://www.rachelgilson.com
We talked with Rachel about temptation on the show here
We talked with Rachel about friendship here
We mentioned thinking through school systems with a certain lens. This is the episode Laurie was referring to.

Feb 14, 2025 • 45min
Episode 236: Remember Discipleship? Let’s Do It | EK Strawser
Discipleship is something Christians are talking about more.
It’s so important. But…what is it?
Today, author and pastor Eun (EK) Strawser helps understand what discipleship is as well as:
--How can we become a community that centers discipleship?
--How can we know if we are doing it “right”?
--How does parenting relate to discipleship?
| Highlights |
“Discipleship means to imitate Jesus within the context of a community for the renewal of the local place around you.”
“If discipleship is centered within a community, then that also means within a family.”
“The discipleship of deficiency develops because people self-disqualify themselves all of the time. Jesus set out and said, ‘Every one of you who are making an intentional decision to imitate me within the context of community, you are a disciple maker. Go and make more.’ If that’s the call, then that should not be a leadership call. Making disciples should not be a criteria for leaders. It should be a baseline criteria for every congregant.”
| QOTW |
What do you need to prepare for winter?
| Next Steps |
Eun’s book here
Her IG here.
Join the HIMH Pod FB group here.
Follow Laurie on IG (where she is the most active) here.