Ian Irving hosts The Athletic's podcast dedicated to Manchester United with club correspondent Laurie Whitwell and United We Stand Editor Andy Mitten.
Recorded late last night, the team react to another dismal display in the Manchester derby. A few positive signs with an interesting formation in the first half were blown away in the second.
Arsenal are now odds-on favourites for fourth place in the Premier League and United's manager Ralf Rangnick will face questions about the future of the team and his own role at the club.
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Talk of the Devils: The Athletic FC's Manchester United show