The Learning & Development Podcast

The L&D Maturity Model: David James in the Hot Seat

May 12, 2025
In this engaging conversation, John Helmer, a writer and podcaster specialized in learning strategies, interviews David James about the innovative L&D Maturity Model. They tackle why the industry needs this new model and its unique collaborative development. John probes into how L&D should proactively align with business needs and the transformative potential of anticipating future demands. The duo also highlights the importance of shifting focus from mere learning delivery to actual performance enhancement and overcoming resistance from stakeholders.
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INSIGHT

New Era of L&D Maturity

  • L&D in 2025 differs significantly from five years ago due to technology and consumer expectations.
  • Existing maturity models miss the lived experience and strategic challenges of real L&D work.
ADVICE

Five Levels of L&D Maturity

  • Move L&D through five levels: reactive, proactive, impacting, strategic, and transformative.
  • Aim for transformative maturity where learning anticipates business needs and personalizes skill development.
ADVICE

Escape the L&D Hamster Wheel

  • Break free from being an order-taker by pushing for impact-focused L&D.
  • Understand business pain points and persistently engage stakeholders despite resistance.
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