

EP 166 — Dr. Monica Gagliano: Is Nature Conscious?
Early Influences
- Monica Gagliano rebelled against cages and constraints as a child, freeing her canary and hamster.
- Her grandmother, a herbalist and medicine woman, instilled in her a deep respect for nature and reciprocal relationships.
Plants Rescued The Scientist
- Facing a moral crisis in her marine science work, Gagliano felt she could no longer justify harming animals for research.
- Plants "rescued the scientist" in her, leading her to explore plant consciousness.
Ayahuasca Deal
- In her first ayahuasca ceremony, Gagliano made a deal with the plant spirit, offering devotion in exchange for proof.
- The medicine restored her eyesight, demonstrating its power and solidifying their partnership.
Could plants really be sentient beings who are capable of understanding and communicating with us?
Dr. Monica Gagliano shares her amazing life’s journey that nearly led her away from science until “the plants rescued the scientist in me” in this environmentally conscious Living 4D conversation.
Learn more about Monica and her work on her website and on social media via Facebook, Twitter and Instagram.
Show Notes
- Growing up in Italy, Monica recognized the relationship between nature and health. (15:20)
- Monica’s work with plants emerged from a moral crisis in her research on marine animals. (24:28)
- Monica’s first plant medicine ceremony led to her deal with plants. (29:56)
- You have to choose to hear plants talking to you in this noisy Western world of ours. (41:20)
- The collective spirit between plants and humans. (50:32)
- Are we unidimensional or multi-dimensional beings? (1:06:05)
- Monica and her plants find a place to call home. (1:10:49)
- A specialist of impossibilities. (1:23:10)
- “We glorify innovation, pioneering and new bright ideas, but the truth is that pioneers don't fit very well with the educational system.” (1:30:25)
- Monica recognizes plants have consciousness for the first time in the lab. (1:37:09)
- Discovering the acoustic relationship between humans and plants. (1:50:02)
- The true and deeper meaning of reciprocity. (2:07:12)
- An amazing time of initiation. (2:20:34)
- Monica’s call to action: Resonant Earth. (2:31:19)
Resources
- Thus Spoke The Plant by Monica Gagliano and Suzanne Simard
- Monica’s interview with the New York Times
- The Secret Life of Plants by Peter Tompkins and Christopher Bird
- The work of Cleve Backster
- The Quantum Revelation: A Radical Synthesis of Science and Spirituality by Paul Levy
- Paul’s Living 4D conversations with Paul Levy and James Carse
- Finite and Infinite Games: A Vision of Life as Play and Possibility by James Carse
- The Invisible Rainbow: A History of Electricity and Life by Arthur Firstenberg
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