I Hate It Here

S4 E3: In the Hot Seat: A CEO’s Perspective on People Ops, with Workweek’s Adam Ryan

May 6, 2024

In a candid conversation, CEO Adam Ryan discusses the complex relationship between CEOs and CPOs, sharing insights on honesty, vulnerability, and empathy in building better relations. He provides tips for effective communication strategies and warns about signs of a deteriorating CEO/CPO relationship. The discussion delves into understanding CEO perspectives, challenges in communication, and the role of ego in conflicts.

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Adam Ryan

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Quick takeaways

Consistent communication and empathy can strengthen HR-CEO relationships.

Balancing transparency and narrative control is crucial in handling team departures.

Deep dives

Building Strong Relationships with CEOs

Creating consistent communication channels and fostering honest and vulnerable discussions can strengthen the relationship between HR leaders and CEOs. Engaging in constructive conflicts to offer different perspectives and showing empathy towards the CEO's challenges can also contribute to a healthier dynamic. Furthermore, modeling desired behaviors and showcasing progress and success can grab the CEO's attention and lead to positive changes in the relationship.

Introduction

2min

Exploring Reasons Behind Job Quitting and Employee Satisfaction

2min

First Impressions and Being Relatable in HR

2min

Fostering Employee Relations and Longevity in the Workplace

3min

Navigating the Complex CEO-CPO Relationship

25min

Building Strong Relationships Between HR Leaders and CEOs through Empathy and Communication

6min

Oil and water. Fire and ice. CEOs and CPOs.

Some things just don’t go together like they should. But does it always have to be that way?

In this super candid conversation, Hebba chats with her IRL CEO at Workweek, Adam Ryan, to discuss the complex relationship between CEOs and CPOs. Adam opens up about the CEO’s perspective on HR and shares his thoughts on how HR leaders can build a better relationship with their CEO.

What role can honesty, vulnerability, and empathy play in building a better path forward for both sides? And does there always have to be a conflict of interest between the two departments? Adam reveals what it’s like to hold the weight of an entire company on his shoulders and explains the role that ego can play in conflict.

Plus, what’s the best way to capture the attention of a reluctant or stubborn CEO? Adam shares his best tips for effective communication strategies and opens his playbook for successful HR/CEO relations.

And later, find out the top warning signs and red flags of when a CEO/CPO relationship is about to turn sour and Adam’s super juicy take on why employees leave.

00:00:00 - Navigating the Tension Between HR and CEO

00:01:13 - When Company Values Clash: Reasons to Leave

00:08:57 - CEO and CPO Relationship Dynamics Unpacked

00:13:58 - The Importance of Consistent Communication with CEOs

00:16:56 - Navigating Tensions in Company Communications

00:23:25 - Understanding Your CEO's Perspective in Decision Making

00:28:44 - HR and Finance Roles: A Balancing Act

00:34:37 - Building Strong Working Relationships at Work

00:38:01 - Strengthening HR-CEO Relationship with Empathy

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