The New Liberal Podcast How should Democrats talk about ICE? ft. Matt Yglesias
Jan 16, 2026
Matt Yglesias, a progressive policy commentator and co-founder of Vox, dives deep into the controversial actions of ICE in Minnesota and beyond. He discusses how Democrats can effectively address public disapproval of ICE while shaping a humane immigration policy. Yglesias emphasizes the need for balance between compassion and enforcement, critiques the current asylum system, and suggests practical reforms. He also explores political messaging strategies for Democrats to regain credibility, emphasizing connections with veterans and the importance of addressing affordability.
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Asylum Backlogs Created A Loophole
- The asylum system became a de facto loophole when backlogs made processing slow and releases common.
- That created a surge that overwhelmed border communities and shifted local politics rightward.
Immigrants Fill Tough Jobs And Net Fiscal Roles
- Most immigrants come to work in taxing, low-paid jobs that are better than alternatives in their home countries.
- Economically, many undocumented workers pay into the system while drawing little welfare.
Legal Pathways Require Credible Enforcement
- You can't credibly support legal migration while refusing all interior enforcement.
- Sustainable legal pathways require the ability to enforce visa terms and sometimes deport people.
