Michael Tomasky & Greg Epstein

Michael Tomasky, editor of The New Republic, discusses the aftermath of the VP debate, providing insights on Trump's dwindling public empathy. Greg Epstein, a humanist chaplain at Harvard and MIT, dives into his new book, 'Tech Agnostic,' exploring technology's role as a modern religion. The conversation highlights the need for reevaluating our spiritual beliefs in the tech era and critiques the worship-like devotion to Silicon Valley leaders. The duo also addresses the ethical dilemmas posed by for-profit initiatives during societal crises.