I don’t video record my podcasts because I’m so new at this that I’m pretty sure I’m making weird faces while I read the questions I’ve written before hand for these interviews. Plus, I apparently have a furious focus face, the old “triple F” as they say in Latin. I look so mad when I’m really listening. But if you could see the video of this conversation, in this episode you’d see me start leaning in, start clapping and start taking notes.

Cathy Heller’s story of losing her record deal, reinventing her life and building a massive business is wildly inspiring. She stepped on my toes a lot in this episode, challenging me to do some things in my own life that I’ve been afraid to try. If you listen to this episode while on a treadmill, you’re probably going to fall off. That’s a safety warning, right there.

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