Despite our focus on personal brands and business here on this podcast, we know that relationships, family, and marriages are a huge part of a healthy life, and deserve just as much attention as anything else. On the show today, to share some of her wisdom about building and maintaining healthier bonds with a spouse, is the amazing Kathryn Gordon! Kathryn is a good friend of ours and is truly inspiring as a person and personal brand. She is a mother, businesswoman, movie producer, best-selling author, and host of the Kathryn For Real Podcast! She published the inspiring and informative book Relationship Grit together with her husband Jon, and we hear all about her journey, the process of bringing her lessons to the world, and what her experiences through the last few years have given her. Kathryn talks about when to look outside for help, how husbands can approach supporting their wives through tough times, and the types of communication pitfalls that so many of us fall into. So to hear it all from this powerful woman, make sure to catch the show!