Andrew Copson of Humanists UK is the author of new book 'Secularism: politics, religion and freedom'. He engages with Mail on Sunday journalist Peter Hitchens on whether secularism is the best future for the West, the 'myth' of neutrality, Islam and gay cakes. Juno the puppy also features.

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