
Unbelievable?
Unbelievable? offers a weekly podcast, blog, and video series hosted by Ruth Jackson and a team of thinkers and Christian apologists.
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Apr 11, 2025 • 1h 17min
Why I Changed My Mind on Christian Sexual Ethics? Rev Dr Christopher Landau vs Rev Charlie Bell hosted by Andy Kind
This week on Premier Unbelievable?, Andy Kind hosts a bold and honest conversation about sex, sexuality, and discipleship in the Church.
Joining him are Rev Dr Christopher Landau, author of Compassionate Orthodoxy and Sexuality, who defends the Church’s traditional teaching with pastoral conviction—and Rev Dr Charlie Bell, author of Queer Holiness, who calls for a theology that embraces LGBTQ+ inclusion as central to holiness.
Can the Church hold grace and truth together without compromise? And is it possible to disagree without doing harm?
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Apr 8, 2025 • 1h 6min
Classic: Intelligent Design on Trial – 15 Years After Kitzmiller-Dover - Mike Behe v Joshua Swamidass
In this riveting discussion, biochemist Mike Behe and biologist Joshua Swamidass dive into the aftermath of the Kitzmiller-Dover trial. Behe, a leading intelligent design advocate, reflects on the trial's long-term effects, while Swamidass offers a critical perspective on the theory of intelligent design. They tackle the concept of irreducible complexity, comparing biology to engineering, and explore the intersection of faith and science. Their respectful debate highlights the ongoing tension between evolution and design, making for a thought-provoking conversation.

Apr 4, 2025 • 1h 15min
Culture Wars: Have Christians Lost the Plot? with Ben Chang and Jonty Langley
Are we stuck in an endless culture war? Has politics overshadowed Jesus in the Church? In this episode of Unbelievable?, host Andy Kind talks with Ben Chang and Jonty Langley about cancel culture, identity politics, and the Church’s role in these debates. Is cancel culture accountability or censorship? How should Christians engage with social justice and critical theory while staying true to biblical truth? Join us as we explore theology, scripture, and the shifting dynamics of power, oppression, and justice in today’s world.
Follow today's guests: 🎙 Ben Chang, author of Christ and the Culture Wars and blogger here: https://www.benchangblog.com/ and 🎙 Jonty Langley, editor of Shibboleth magazine & co-host of Beer Christianity you can follow here: https://x.com/jontylangley

Apr 1, 2025 • 1h 4min
Classic: Faith & Doubt: A Former Atheist and Ex-Christian Face Off
Can belief and unbelief follow the same path? In this Unbelievable? episode, Justin Brierley hosts a fascinating conversation from 2014 between Guillaume Bignon, an atheist-turned-Christian theologian, and Wade Padgett, a former devout Christian who became an atheist.
🔍 What’s Inside?
🔥 Guillaume’s journey from atheism to Christianity—an unexpected turn shaped by intellectual inquiry and life-changing events
🔥 Wade’s shift from Christianity to atheism, driven by existential philosophy and critical reflection on faith
🔥 The power of personal experience—do conversions and deconversions rely on reason or emotion?
🔥 The role of evidence—what counts as "good reasons" for belief or unbelief?
🔥 Are conversion stories valid arguments for faith?
📖 Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
00:14 Guillaume Bignon’s Journey from Atheism to Christianity
04:10 Encountering Christianity & The Turning Point
06:16 Intellectual & Emotional Struggles
10:13 Challenges of a Newfound Faith
16:20 Wade Padgett’s Religious Upbringing
21:16 From Faith to Doubt: Wade’s Journey to Atheism
25:47 Comparing Conversion & Deconversion Stories
31:15 Questioning Arguments for Christianity
32:41 The Role of Personal Experiences in Belief & Deconversion
36:47 Properly Basic Beliefs & Knowledge
46:29 Cognitive Science & Belief Formation
52:10 Do Conversion Stories Prove Faith?
1:03:02 Final Reflections
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🚀 Are conversions and deconversions truly rational, or are they shaped by deeper motivations? Let us know in the comments!

Mar 28, 2025 • 1h 7min
Should We Help People Live - Not Die? Assisted Dying and the Terminally Ill Adults Bill | Dr Susan Marriott & Prof Keith Brown
How close are we to legalising assisted suicide in the UK? Should dying be offered as a course of treatment by NHS doctors?
The Terminally Ill Adults (End of Life) Bill is one of the most contentious pieces of legislation currently before Parliament. It seeks to amend the Suicide Act of 1961 so that 'encouraging or assisting suicide' would no longer be illegal if carried out in accordance with the new Bill.
Joining Andy Kind on Unbelievable are Dr Susan Marriott, a trained medical doctor and Head of Public Policy at the Christian Medical Fellowship UK, and safeguarding expert Prof. Keith Brown who spoke on this topic when the bill first came to Parliament. Due to technical issues beyond our control, Prof Keith Brown was only able to join us for the start of the programme. We hope to welcome him back to Unbelievable before the Bill reaches its report stage on 25 April 2025.

Mar 25, 2025 • 1h
Classic: Is the Mormon Gospel Biblical? Ex-Mormon vs. Active Mormon Debate
🔥 Mormonism vs. Biblical Christianity - Where Do They Stand? 🔥
In this classic Unbelievable? episode from 2014, Justin Brierley moderates a thought-provoking debate between Lynn Wilder, a former temple-recommend-holding Mormon turned Christian, and Michael Flournoy, a lifelong active Mormon.
Lynn shares her journey out of Mormonism, triggered by her son's conversion to Christianity, while Michael defends the Latter-day Saint (LDS) faith. Together, they tackle:
✅ The nature of Jesus in Mormonism vs. Christianity
✅ Grace vs. Works - How are we truly saved?
✅ The role of Joseph Smith and the Book of Mormon
✅ Allegations of racism in Mormon scriptures
✅ Doctrinal shifts, cultural influences, and theological misunderstandings
💡 At the heart of it all: Is the Mormon gospel truly biblical?
📖 Get Lynn Wilder’s book Unveiling Grace 👉 https://amzn.to/4ikyjh0
⏳ Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction & Guest Overview
01:21 Lynn Wilder’s Journey Out of Mormonism
02:37 Temple Practices & Doctrinal Issues
03:39 Challenges & Turning Points
08:57 Michael Flournoy’s Faith Journey
15:08 Debating Doctrinal Differences
18:37 Scriptural Interpretations & Controversies
26:33 Grace, Works & Salvation
31:11 Mormon Scriptures & Racism
32:00 Personal Experiences with Racism in the Church
32:46 Debating Racist Teachings in Mormon Scriptures
36:38 Grace & Works in Mormonism vs. Christianity
40:02 Salvation & Exaltation in Mormon Theology
43:32 The Role of Joseph Smith in Salvation
49:18 Different Views on Jesus Christ
55:20 Final Reflections
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Mar 21, 2025 • 59min
Is there good evidence to believe in God? Ed Atkinson vs Sara Stevenson hosted by Andy Kind
Premier Unbelievable? Podcast is back in Aylesbury, UK at Sir Henry Floyd Grammar School with host Andy Kind moderating a debate on the existence of God, featuring Sara Stevenson from OCCA The Oxford Centre for Christian Apologetics and atheist Ed Atkinson, engineer and former Christian turned Agnostic, and host of the Doubts Aloud podcast. Today's discussion dives into questions of morality, human value, and scientific methods for belief, addressing whether there is good evidence to believe in God.

Mar 18, 2025 • 1h
Classic: Faith vs. doubt - a clash of worldviews Os Guinness and Ed Atkinson
Can faith withstand scrutiny? Can doubt lead to truth? In this classic Unbelievable? episode from 2014, Justin Brierley hosts a gripping dialogue between Os Guinness, renowned author and social critic, and Ed Atkinson, a former Christian turned atheist. And listen out as Ed joins the show again in a few weeks.
🔍 What’s Inside?
🔥 Os defends the rational and experiential case for faith
🔥 Ed shares his journey from belief to atheism
🔥 They challenge each other on meaning, morality, and worldview bias
🔥 They explore the role of science, religion, and love in shaping belief
🔥 Can faith be intellectually credible? Can atheism provide ultimate meaning?
🎧 Listen in as they debate, challenge, and wrestle with life’s biggest questions.
📖 Get Os Guinness's latest book: Our Civilisational Moment: The Waning of the West and the War of the Worlds 👉 https://amzn.to/4iwMDmN

Mar 14, 2025 • 52min
Does science point toward or away from God? Phil Halper vs Professor Paul Ewart (Oxford Physics) hosted by Sam McKee
Today's episode will seek to answer the age-old question: Does science bring us closer to understanding a divine creator, or does it steer us away from such a belief? Sam McKee, researcher and associate tutor in history and philosophy of science at Manchester Metropolitan University guest hosts and he is joined by two distinguished guests.
Paul Ewart, an Emeritus Fellow of Worcester College, Oxford. He has served as an Associate Professor in the Department of Physics. His research areas include fundamental atomic physics, quantum and nonlinear optics, and the design of novel lasers for spectroscopy. He has also focused on developing new techniques for optical diagnostics and gas-sensing for environmental monitoring.
Debating with Paul is Phil Halper, a YouTuber who has interviewed many of the world's leading scientists, including Stephen Hawking, Roger Penrose, and Alan Guth. Phil is a Fellow of the Royal Astronomical Society and was appointed journalist in residence at the Penn State Institute for Gravitation and the Cosmos. He has been the lead author on several peer-reviewed papers in fields ranging from cosmology to neuroscience and philosophy. Phil's first book, 'Battle of the Big Bang: The New Tales of our Cosmic Origins,' co-authored with award-winning cosmologist Niayesh Afshordi, will be published by the University of Chicago Press in the spring of 2025.
So listen below as Paul Ewart and Phil Halper engage in a compelling debate exploring the profound question: Does science point toward or away from God? Guest hosted by Dr. Sam McKee.

Mar 11, 2025 • 1h 20min
Classic: Is there historical evidence for the bodily resurrection of Jesus? Justin Bass & Dale Allison
New Testament scholars Dale Allison and Justin Bass discuss their different approaches to the evidence for Jesus' resurrection in a show first aired in 2021.
Bass, author of 'The Bedrock of Christianity: The unalterable facts of Jesus' death and resurrection' says the evidence from the core historical facts points to a resurrection. Allison, author of 'The Resurrection of Jesus: Apologetics, Criticism, History' is less certain that these facts lead us to a bodily resurrection.
For more Justin Bass on Unbelievable https://youtu.be/LVUQAVQS1-U
For more Dale Allison :https://youtu.be/FfUD1OkbSHw
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