Victor and Aswin, co-founders of Theo, have an ambitious goal: to revolutionise delivery using semi-autonomous robots. The team are moving at lightning pace.

But it’s not always been easy to get investors to buy into their bold vision of the future.

They join psychologist Dr Gena Gorlin to explore how they’ve been able to keep their convictions strong in the face of all the noes. Gena and co-host Alice Bentinck reflect on the conversation throughout, pulling out valuable learnings for other ambitious founders.

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