George Saunders, a professional author, shares his unconventional path towards becoming a writer. He discusses the power of kindness, the challenges of maintaining productivity while nurturing creativity, the importance of innovation in everyday products, reflections on writing advice, the significance of endings in storytelling, and engaging with uncomfortable ideas and AI's impact on fiction writing.
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Overcoming the fear of not knowing how to start and persevering in the writing journey are crucial for success as an author.
Acting with kindness has a lasting impact and requires engagement, challenging others, and questioning our own motivations.
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George Saunders' Journey to Becoming a Writer
George Saunders, a renowned writer known for his short stories and novels, discusses his unconventional path to becoming a writer. From holding odd jobs to experiencing a transformative illness, Saunders shares how circumstances and personal realization led him to pursue his passion for writing. He emphasizes the importance of overcoming the fear of not knowing how to start and the significance of perseverance in the writing journey.
George Saunders on Regrets and Failures of Kindness
Saunders reflects on a powerful graduation speech he gave that resonated with many people. He shares the origin story of how he came to the realization that his greatest regrets were failures of kindness. By recounting a personal experience from his youth, he highlights the importance of acting with kindness and the lasting impact it can have.
The Difference Between Being Nice and Being Kind
Saunders discusses the distinction between being nice and being kind. He explains that being kind requires more than just being non-confrontational or polite. Kindness involves a willingness to engage and sometimes challenge others in uncomfortable situations. He emphasizes the importance of cultivating awareness, discerning what might make things better, and the need to question our own motivations when striving for kindness.
The Power of Patience and Uncertainty in Writing
Saunders explores the significance of patience and tolerance in the writing process. He highlights the importance of embracing uncertainty and allowing ideas to develop over time. Saunders emphasizes the need to maintain a quiet mind, free of intentions and preconceived ideas, in order to access one's creative and intuitive subconscious mind. He shares the value of revising and rewriting, allowing a story to gradually take shape and reach its full potential.
Before his stories regularly appeared in The New Yorker, before the MacArthur and Guggenheim Fellowships, and before being named one of the world’s most influential people by TIME, George Saunders was a roofer. And a doorman. And a technical writer. In this episode, George sits down with Adam and shares what he’s learned from his winding path towards becoming a professional author, the secrets of creating work that sticks, and how to receive feedback and elevate our rough drafts.