VELOCITEACH Manage This
The podcast by project managers for project managers. Dana Brownlee shares tools for managing up that challenging boss or stakeholder, while creating alignment and clear communication.
Table of Contents
00:58 … Meet Dana
02:18 … The Inspiration for The Unwritten Rules of Managing Up
03:54 … Managing Up Research Study
07:02 … It Begins with Self Awareness
08:20 … A Definition of Managing Up
10:05 … Managing Up Mistakes
11:30 … Six Difficult Boss Personality Types
14:32 … A Closer Look at the Clueless Chameleon
19:03 … A Closer Look at the Meddlesome Micromanager
22:40 … A Closer Look at the Tornado
25:22 … The Compliment, Document, and Pivot
27:37 … More Taming of the Tornado
29:32 … Self-Analysis for the Project Manager
31:28 … Get in Touch with Dana
32:24 … Closing
WENDY GROUNDS: Hello,
and welcome to Manage This, the podcast by project managers for project
managers. I’m Wendy Grounds and with me
in the studio is Bill Yates. Bill, I
have a question for you today. How often
have you experienced a difficult stakeholder or a difficult boss? What’s your experience?
BILL YATES: Oh,
man. This is such a loaded
question. You’re going to get me in
trouble. Andy...
WENDY GROUNDS: Yeah,
we don’t have to talk any current.
BILL YATES: Okay, good, yeah. I was going to say, Andy Crowe’s not in the room right now, but he will definitely listen to this. So, got an outstanding manager now. But yeah, I mean, this is just a part of life; right? We have managers who – sometimes our boss, our manager is super supportive and great. Other times there are challenges, and so fortunately we have Dana to talk with us about some of those challenges.
Meet Dana
WENDY GROUNDS: So our guest today is Dana Brownlee, she is a PMP, and she founded Professionalism Matters, which is an Atlanta-based corporate training company. Her business expertise has been featured in Forbes.com, CNN, The Wall Street Journal, to name a few. And Dana likes to give project managers tools they can use. Dana, welcome to Manage This.
DANA BROWNLEE: Thanks
so much for having me.
WENDY GROUNDS: Dana,
won’t you first tell us just a bit about yourself and how you entered the
project management field?
DANA BROWNLEE:
Certainly. Well, I started my
company back in 2003. I’m dating myself
a little bit, can’t believe it’s been that long. But I started in project management I guess
in the early ‘90s. And in fact I
remember it was so long ago, I remember applying for my PMP in handwritten
paper.
BILL YATES: Oh, okay.
WENDY GROUNDS: Wow.
DANA BROWNLEE: Like printing it off and writing it out and actually mailing it in, putting a stamp in, so I’m officially old. But I worked in corporate for a number of years, and then I started my own training company, and I went out, and I teach training classes and give speaking events. But I do think that I’ve always been wired kind of as a project manager, I dot my I’s; I cross my T’s. In fact, my husband laughed. He said, you know, “This is definitely for you. You’ve got a knack for telling other people what to do.” So some of it is kind of in my blood. But I love it.
The Inspiration for The Unwritten Rules of
Managing Up
WENDY GROUNDS: Dana
has written an excellent book that Bill and I have both enjoyed reading. It’s called “The Unwritten Rules of Managing
Up: Project Management Techniques from
the Trenches.” And in this book we read
about different types of bosses and techniques that you can implement when
working with these different types of managers.
Dana, what inspired you to write the book?
DANA BROWNLEE: Actually, my audiences inspired me to write the book. I never intended to speak on this topic, to write on this topic, but let me tell you what started happening. I give talks, and I provide training on a wide range of topics. So I might be out speaking about communication skills,