Live in Liverpool part two – with special guest Emily Thornberry
Sep 25, 2024
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Emily Thornberry, a Member of Parliament known for her vocal insights on party dynamics, joins the discussion with Dorian, Jonn, and Zoe. They delve into the Labour Party's current mood and recent controversies, reflecting on the emotional highs and lows of election night. Thornberry shares her thoughts on rebuilding trust in politics amid corruption narratives and the challenges of post-Brexit relations. The group also tackles immigration policies in the EU and the unexpected enthusiasm for increased defense spending among Labour MPs.
The Labour Party must emphasize ongoing engagement with constituents to uphold public trust while managing the complexities of governance transitions.
Addressing substantial economic challenges transparently is vital for the Labour government to build public confidence and outline effective recovery plans.
Deep dives
Transition from Opposition to Government
Moving from nearly 15 years in opposition to holding government power presents significant challenges for the Labour Party. The discussion highlights the idea that even in times of difficulty, a government’s worst day is preferable to the best moments spent in opposition. Newly elected officials are cautioned about the importance of not taking their positions and the public's support for granted, emphasizing the need to continually engage with constituents despite having larger majorities. This perspective underscores a commitment to responsible governance amidst the inevitable growing pains of a transitioning government.
The Economic Landscape and Honesty
The Labour government confronts a substantial economic challenge, with revelations about a £22 billion shortfall not disclosed prior to taking office. This situation calls for transparency with the British public regarding the UK's financial realities. While acknowledging the severity of the challenges, there is also a call for optimism, emphasizing the necessity of presenting a clear plan for economic recovery and growth. The commitment to delivering honest communication about the state of finances aims to build public trust while forging a path forward.
Challenges of Trust and Public Sentiment
The ongoing tension between public perception and the Labour Party's ability to rebuild trust following the Conservative years is articulated as a significant hurdle. Actions taken by the party must align with their words to restore faith in political leadership, contrasting the prior government's shortcomings. There is an emphasis on the importance of integrity and following through on commitments as critical to regaining voter confidence. The media portrayal of politicians as corrupt complicates this, requiring Labour to demonstrate fundamental differences in governance.
Foreign Affairs and Global Stance
Addressing complex global issues like the war in Ukraine and the relationship with the EU, the Labour Party's current and future stance aims to balance assertiveness and collaboration. The potential impacts of external political pressures, especially with shifting dynamics in the United States under different leadership, form a core aspect of the discussion. While maintaining a commitment to support Ukraine, there is also recognition of the need for practical diplomacy amid fluctuating public and political sentiments. Such strategies aim to reinforce the UK's standing internationally while ensuring local stability at home.
In the second half of our Labour conference live show from Liverpool, Emily Thornberry MP joins Dorian, Jonn and Zoe. They discuss the mood in the party, touch on controversies, recap the victory and much more.
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Presented by Dorian Lynskey, with Jonn Elledge and Zoe Grunewald. Producer: Chris Jones. Audio production by: Robin Leeburn. Video production by: Chris Jones. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production.