Oh God, What Now?

A neurotic obsession with illegal migration is driving British politics rightwards, trapping the parties in an arms race of escalating harshness towards migrants. Now Tory far-righter Katie Lam wants to cancel legal migrants’ right to stay, evoking the racist “repatriation” talk of the 1970s National Front. Can Britain get out of the migration doom spiral?  Former head of the Migration Advisory Committee Prof Alan Manning joins us to talk about the “infernal cycle” of migration policy … whether Labour really are just trying to outbid the Tories and Reform… his new book Why Immigration Policy Is Hard And How To Make It Better … and why a good goal would be to Make Migration Boring Again.   • Buy Why Immigration Policy Is Hard And How To Make It Better through our affiliate bookshop and you’ll help fund the podcast by earning us a small commission for every sale. Bookshop.org’s fees help support independent bookshops too.  ESCAPE ROUTES  • Ros and Alan are both watching Celebrity Traitors on the iPlayer, as it seems is everyone.  • Apart from Andrew, who is listening to the soothing German techno on Kompakt Total 25 • Advertisers! Want to reach smart, engaged, influential people with money to spend? (Yes, they do exist). Some 3.5 MILLION people download and watch our podcasts every month – and they love our shows. Why not get YOUR brand in front of our influential listeners with podcast advertising? Contact ads@podmasters.co.uk to find out more  • If you want to find out more about Energise Africa and register as an investor, visit energiseafrica.com/ogwn www.patreon.com/ohgodwhatnow  Presented by Andrew Harrison with Ros Taylor. Audio Production by Robin Leeburn. Art direction: James Parrett. Theme music by Cornershop. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production.  www.podmasters.co.uk   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Reform UK just pulled off the sequel to the Jackie Weaver Handforth Parish Council Zoom meeting, and it’s excellent. The leaked Zoom meeting from Reform’s flagship Kent County Council shows things aren’t perhaps going as well for Nigel Farage’s party/business as he may have hoped. Is Reform having a bit of a wobble? Plus, is social media brainrot ruining British politics? And in the Extra Bit for subscribers, things are going from very bad to a lot worse for Prince Andrew. How did we get here, and how much worse can it really get for the British Royal Family?  ESCAPE ROUTES:   • Jason recommends Slow Horses ⁠   • Zöe recommends the podcast On Being • Marie recommends the game HollowKnight: Silksong AND the Eva Helene Pade exhibition at London’s Ely House.   • Seth recommends Journey To The Far Side of The Sun If you want to find out more about Energise Africa and register as an investor, visit energiseafrica.com/ogwn Head to nakedwines.co.uk/ohgodwhatnow to get 6 top-rated wines from our sponsor Naked Wines for £39.99, delivery included.  www.patreon.com/ohgodwhatnow    Presented by Seth Thévoz with Zöe Grünewald, Marie Le Conte and Jason Hazeley  Audio Production by Robin Leeburn. Art direction: James Parrett. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production.    www.podmasters.co.uk     ENDS  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The papers still dangle the dream of a sun-dappled retirement. Yet millions have nowhere near the savings they’ll need, while a fortunate few are amassing family wealth that could change Britain forever. Meanwhile the generational wealth gap is forcing younger people to forget about starting families. Is the old “work hard and you’ll make it” model broken? And do we need a wealth tax to fix it? Will Snell of the Fairness Foundation joins Andrew and Hannah to discuss a growing crisis.   • Our partner pod American Friction  just won Best News and Politics show at the Independent Podcast Awards. Listen and see what you’ve been missing.   ESCAPE ROUTES   • Will recommends Chief of War on Apple TV+.   • Hannah recommends going to see Self Esteem, still just about on tour.   • Andrew went to see The Magnetic Fields perform their classic 69 Love Songs.    • Head to https://www.nakedwines.co.uk/ohgodwhatnow to get 6 top-rated wines from our sponsor Naked Wines for £39.99, delivery included. • Advertisers! Want to reach smart, engaged, influential people with money to spend? (Yes, they do exist). Some 3.5 MILLION people download and watch our podcasts every month – and they love our shows. Why not get YOUR brand in front of our influential listeners with podcast advertising? Contact ads@podmasters.co.uk to find out more  • Back us on Patreon at https://www.patreon.com/ohgodwhatnow for ad-free listening, bonus materials and more.   Written and presented by Andrew Harrison with Hannah Fearn. Audio and video production by award-winning Chris Jones. Theme music by Cornershop. Art direction: James Parrett. Produced by award-winning Chris Jones. Managing Editor: award-winning Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production.  www.podmasters.co.uk  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

After the collapse of the China spying case, do we have to accept that Britain is way past being able to spar with Beijing? Especially when we depend so much on their students? Green MP Siân Berry talks about the party’s future under new eco-populist leader Zach Polanski, how to square green infrastructure with their support’s suspicion of development, and whether the Greens would enter a coalition with Labour to keep Farage out. And in the Extra Bit for Patreon people… Sunak’s back, sort of. What do ex-PMs get up to these days? And the terror of the A.I. Margaret Thatcher ChatBot.  • Our partner pod American Friction just won Best News and Politics show at the Independent Podcast Awards. Listen and see what you’ve been missing.  ESCAPE ROUTES  • Raf recommends Film Club on BBC iPlayer.  • Rachel recommends The Finest Hotel In Kabul by Lise Doucet.  • Siân Berry recommends The French Lieutenant’s Woman .  • Ros recommends The Line on ITVX.  Buy The Finest Hotel In Kabul through our affiliate bookshop and you’ll help fund OGWN by earning us a small commission for every sale. Bookshop.org’s fees help support independent bookshops too. • Head to nakedwines.co.uk/ohgodwhatnow to get 6 top-rated wines from our sponsor Naked Wines for £39.99, delivery included. • Get our exclusive NordVPN deal here: nordvpn.com/ohgodwhatnow. It’s risk- free with Nord’s 30-day money back guarantee! • Advertisers! Want to reach smart, engaged, influential people with money to spend? (Yes, they do exist). Some 3.5 MILLION people download and watch our podcasts every month – and they love our shows. Why not get YOUR brand in front of our influential listeners with podcast advertising? Contact ads@podmasters.co.uk to find out more • Back us on Patreon for ad-free listening, bonus materials and more.  Written and presented by Ros Taylor with Rachel Cunliffe and Rafael Behr. Audio production by Tom Taylor. Theme music by Cornershop. Art direction: James Parrett. Produced by award-winning Chris Jones. Managing Editor: award-winning Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production. www.podmasters.co.uk Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Joining the discussion is Alex Hern, the Technology and AI correspondent for The Economist. He sheds light on the controversial UK digital ID scheme and its implications on civil liberties. The conversation dives into the 'Lethal Trifecta', detailing risks associated with untrusted AI inputs and sensitive data access. Alex argues for nationalizing digital ID to enhance public services, juxtaposing positive international examples like Estonia with the pitfalls of India's Aadhaar system. The debate intensifies over government competence in tech projects and the potential benefits and skepticism surrounding digital IDs.

The Tory Party looks fatally damaged. Who hijacked the corpse at their conference in Manchester – Reform or Robert Jenrick? Josh Glancy of The Sunday Times was there and he explains whether there’s any life in the old party yet. Plus, the horrific killings at a Manchester synagogue left many British Jews saying they feel unsafe in their own country. We look at the complex and emotive issues of fighting antisemitism while preserving the right to protest against Netanyahu’s war on Gaza. And in the Extra Bit, we look at the Tech Bro nightmare of “996”. Could you work 9am-9pm six days a week? ESCAPE ROUTES  • Marie has set up her very own affordable art salon called The Outsiders’ Arts Club. • Jonn loved Juniper Blood at the Donmar – keep an eye out in case it’s on near you.  • Josh Glancy recommends Blue Lights on the BBC iPlayer.   • Andrew went to see Edwyn Collins live in London. • Head to ⁠nakedwines.co.uk/ohgodwhatnow⁠ to get 6 top-rated wines from our sponsor Naked Wines for £39.99, delivery included. • Get our exclusive NordVPN deal here: nordvpn.com/ohgodwhatnow. It’s risk- free with Nord’s 30-day money back guarantee! • Advertisers! Want to reach smart, engaged, influential people with money to spend? (Yes, they do exist). Some 3.5 MILLION people download and watch our podcasts every month – and they love our shows. Why not get YOUR brand in front of our influential listeners with podcast advertising? Contact ads@podmasters.co.uk to find out more • Back us on Patreon for ad-free listening, bonus materials and more.  Written and presented by Andrew Harrison with Jonn Elledge and Marie le Conte. Audio production by Robin Leeburn. Theme music by Cornershop. Art direction: James Parrett. Produced by Chris Jones. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production. www.podmasters.co.uk Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nobody wants to imagine a large-scale war in Europe. But after Putin invaded Ukraine and Trump tore up Europe’s security guarantee, it’s horribly plausible. Is Russia as powerful as Putin wants us to think? Is there more to military power than tanks and guns? Why do strategists keep making the wrong predictions? And what does Pete Hegseth’s unhinged locker-rom pep talk/incitement to the US military to commit war crimes mean for any American role in the world? In a fascinating, surprise-packed conversation Phillips Payson O’Brien, Professor of Strategic Studies at St Andrews University and author of new book War and Power: Who Wins Wars and Why gives Andrew Harrison and Jacob Jarvis an urgent update on the realities of military power.  • Buy War and Power through our affiliate bookshop and you’ll help fund OGWN by earning us a small commission for every sale. Bookshop.org’s fees help support independent bookshops too. ESCAPE ROUTES  • Phillips recommends Better Call Saul on Netflix.  • Jarv recommends horror movies Weapons and Bring Her Back.  • Andrew went to see Roland Gift of Fine Young Cannibals. Buy any book through our affiliate bookshop and you’ll help fund OGWN by earning us a small commission for every sale. Bookshop.org’s fees help support independent bookshops too. • Head to nakedwines.co.uk/ohgodwhatnow to get 6 top-rated wines from our sponsor Naked Wines for £39.99, delivery included. • Get our exclusive NordVPN deal here: nordvpn.com/ohgodwhatnow. It’s risk- free with Nord’s 30-day money back guarantee! • Advertisers! Want to reach smart, engaged, influential people with money to spend? (Yes, they do exist). Some 3.5 MILLION people download and watch our podcasts every month – and they love our shows. Why not get YOUR brand in front of our influential listeners with podcast advertising? Contact ads@podmasters.co.uk to find out more • Back us on Patreon for ad-free listening, bonus materials and more.  Written and presented by Andrew Harrison with Jacob Jarvis. Audio/video production by Chris Jones. Theme music by Cornershop. Art direction: James Parrett. Produced by Chris Jones. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production. www.podmasters.co.uk Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Keir Starmer finally takes a stand against Farage, sparking debate about Labour's coherence and strategy. The panel discusses Andy Burnham's aspirations to lead and his call for the UK to rejoin the EU. They explore whether that's a desirable or feasible option for Europe. Public sentiment towards Starmer's policies is also examined, revealing mixed reactions. Plus, a fun look at what the hosts are currently watching, including some intriguing documentaries.

Join Anna Minton, a Reader in architecture and author on housing issues, as she dives deep into the challenges of urban regeneration. She reveals the pitfalls of private-led projects and how they prioritize land value over community needs. Minton compares regeneration horror stories from around the world, discusses the limitations of placemaking, and highlights models from Europe that focus on social housing. The conversation also touches on the political implications of local decline and the urgent need for a shift in housing policy.

The ghost of Enoch Powell punches the air as Farage announces jaw-dropping plans for mass deportations and tearing up Indefinite Leave to Remain, claiming it will save Britain over £230bn (it won’t). Is Reform succumbing to the gravitational pull of the far-far-far right or just showing its true, cruel face? And does Labour’s feeble response that “this plan won’t work” just accept the premise of a hateful piece of self-harm? Plus, Trump’s Tariffs: how they started and how they’re going, with international trade expert and friend of the pod Dmitry Grozoubinski. And in the Extra Bit, what was the exciting new tech innovation that made you say “OK that’s enough exciting new tech innovations, thanks”? • See Matt Green on his Legitimate Concerns tour, beginning on 17 October.  • Get our exclusive NordVPN deal here. It’s risk-free with Nord’s 30-day money back guarantee!  ESCAPE ROUTES  • Matt recommends The Girlfriend on Amazon Prime.  • Marie watched the whole of Stanley Kubrick’s Barry Lyndon and seems to want a medal for it. And Modern Family too.  • Dmitry has been rewatching the Australian political satire Utopia which you can see on Apple TV+.  • Ros (mostly) recommends The Hack on ITV.  Claim the Naked Wines offer here: ⁠nakedwines.co.uk/ohgodwhatnow⁠ • Advertisers! Want to reach smart, engaged, influential people with money to spend? (Yes, they do exist). Some 3.5 MILLION people download and watch our podcasts every month – and they love our shows. Why not get YOUR brand in front of our influential listeners with podcast advertising? Contact ads@podmasters.co.uk to find out more • Back us on Patreon for ad-free listening, bonus materials and more.  Written and presented by Ros Taylor with Marie le Conte and Matt Green. Audio production by Tom Taylor and Robin Leeburn. Theme music by Cornershop. Art direction: James Parrett. Produced by Chris Jones. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production. www.podmasters.co.uk Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices