Ian Irving hosts The Athletic's podcast dedicated to Manchester United with club correspondent Laurie Whitwell and United We Stand Editor Andy Mitten.
We've had some miserable Mondays on the pod this season, but this one has to take the biscuit. A five-nil defeat at home to a bitter rival is bad enough, but the scoreline was almost kind to the Red Devils.
Talk of Ole Gunnar Solskjaer's departure as manager naturally intensified after what is certainly one of the club's worst results in Premier League history, and possibly the very worst of all.
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Talk of the Devils: The Athletic FC's Manchester United show