The Engineering Leadership Podcast

How Atlassian built Rovo in 6 months: systematizing developer joy, autonomy/ownership, productivity champions & reducing ship time w/ Rajeev Rajan #240

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Dec 17, 2025
Rajeev Rajan, CTO at Atlassian and a veteran from Meta and Microsoft, reveals how he transformed Atlassian's engineering culture to prioritize 'developer joy'. He discusses the incredible feat of reducing ship time from 120 days to zero for their new AI app, Rovo. Rajeev shares insights on empowering teams with autonomy, creating community productivity champions, and aligning on company-wide OKRs. He also hints at future innovations like better browser UX and the potential of AI for personalized applications.
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ANECDOTE

120 Days To Zero-Day Deploys

  • Rajeev recounts a Confluence editor change that once took 120 days to reach the app and how that revealed deep engineering friction.
  • He describes fixing many systemic issues until the same-day deploy time became zero, restoring developer flow.
INSIGHT

Developer Joy Over Pure Productivity

  • Rajeev reframes developer productivity as developer joy, tying metrics to engineers' emotional experience.
  • He argues reducing friction restores the joy of creation and improves long-term output.
ADVICE

Allocate Time For Teams To Fix Potholes

  • Give teams 10–20% of engineering time to fix their own top potholes and empower them to act.
  • Let local engineers decide and implement fixes to create compounding reductions in friction.
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