In this thought-provoking episode of Relationships at Work, host Russel Lolacher sits down with Nigel Thurlow, co-creator of The Flow System and former Chief of Agile at Toyota, to break down the hidden dangers of how we incentivize leadership.
We discuss:
✔️ How financial incentives can backfire and create toxic leadership
✔️ The difference between responsibility and accountability in leadership
✔️ Why many employees don’t want leadership roles—and how to change that
✔️ The real question leaders should ask: If you stopped paying people, would they still follow you?
✔️ Why "productivity theater" is ruining workplace culture
✔️ How distributed leadership can fix broken incentive systems
🎧 Tune in for a game-changing conversation on leadership, workplace culture, and what it truly means to inspire others.
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