
The Daily 'The Interview': George Saunders Says Ditching These Three Delusions Can Save You
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Jan 10, 2026 George Saunders, an acclaimed novelist celebrated for works like Lincoln in the Bardo, shares his insights on the complexities of kindness and the benefits of meditation. He discusses character motivations in his novel Vigil, revealing how literature fosters empathy and challenges moral perceptions. Saunders reflects on his journey from Ayn Rand to a deeper compassion, and he candidly addresses the burdens of being labeled as 'kind.' His thoughts on death and the impact of capitalism offer a profound view on success and self-awareness.
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Art As Question, Not Answer
- Art should formulate problems rather than solve them, letting characters embody competing views.
- George Saunders says his job is to let each character make the best case for their perspective.
Stories Temporarily Raise Perception
- Engaging deeply with literature temporarily raises your language and perception.
- Saunders describes writing as producing a small spirit that makes readers more patient and empathetic.
From Rand To Empathy In Singapore
- Saunders read Atlas Shrugged as a young man and felt special, which drew him toward Ayn Rand's ideas.
- A later moment in Singapore, seeing women clearing rubble, flipped him toward empathy and progressive views.


















