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BREAKING: Devin buys Windsurf PLUS ex-Google Director Hints at a New Type of Intelligence...

Jul 15, 2025
Join Joe Ternasky, a seasoned tech executive at companies like Google and Microsoft, and Jordan Thibodeau, former Google and Slack veteran, as they dive into the latest in AI and tech dynamics. They break down OpenAI's acquisition of Windsurf and discuss M&A strategies, unveiling the impact of AI on software engineering jobs. Discover insights on advancements like Grok 4, ethical AI considerations, and the competitive landscape shaping the future of technology. Their engaging banter sheds light on Silicon Valley's inner workings!
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ANECDOTE

Windsurf Acquisition Complexities

  • OpenAI tried to acquire Windsurf but Microsoft challenged IP control, creating a complex deal with license and release aspects.
  • Google ensured employees got special payments and retention bonuses, showing care for team stability during acquisition upheaval.
INSIGHT

AI IDE Valuations Reflect Ecosystem Value

  • The high valuations of AI development around simple IDEs show that there's no immediate threat to software engineering jobs.
  • The real value is in the entire software development ecosystem fueled by human engineers.
ADVICE

Use AI To Boost Engineering Skills

  • Software engineers will not be replaced but those skilled with AI tools will be faster and more capable.
  • Use AI to augment your skills, enabling rapid progress in unfamiliar areas with boosted productivity.
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