The Master Investor Podcast with Wilfred Frost

Nick Clegg: Why UK Free Speech is Under Threat; Silicon Valley Needs to Man Up; China Leading the AI Race

Sep 10, 2025

In this engaging discussion, Nick Clegg, former UK Deputy Prime Minister and Meta's Global Affairs President, shares his insights on the future of technology and free speech. He argues that Britain is losing its optimism compared to the US and warns of China's lead in the AI race. Clegg critiques Silicon Valley for its disconnect from reality and urges tech leaders to adopt a tougher mindset. He also highlights the complexities of political leadership versus business, shedding light on the importance of accountability in public life.

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Britain Has Fallen Out Of Love With The Future

Britain has grown more pessimistic about the future compared with the US, affecting sentiment across politics and business.
Nick Clegg believes this loss of optimism undermines growth and innovation momentum in the UK.

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Why The US Pulled Ahead Economically

Structural factors (demographics, geography, crises) widened the economic gap between the US and Europe.
Clegg sees recent events like 2008 and COVID as accelerating America's lead in GDP and dynamism.

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Silicon Valley's Odd Self-Pity Problem

Clegg criticises a culture in parts of Silicon Valley where wealthy leaders adopt a victim mentality despite disruptive power.
He calls for tougher resilience from tech leaders and less simpering self-pity.

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Nick Clegg, former UK Deputy Prime Minister and President of Global Affairs at Meta, joins Wilfred Frost on The Master Investor Podcast to discuss politics, leadership, and the future of technology. In this wide-ranging conversation, Clegg explains why he believes Britain has 'fallen out of love with the future', the differences between US and UK attitudes to growth, why China might beat America in the AI race, and why he is skeptical about the AI hype in general.

Clegg expresses his discomfort at how close tech leaders have gotten to the Trump administration and tells Silicon Valley to “man up and grow some”. He believes free speech IS under threat in the UK, and that politics is much harder than business.

During the interview Wilf and Nick discussed the ongoing case in the US relating to the suicide of Adam Raine on 11 April 2025 having interacted with ChatGPT. Here is a statement provided to CNBC by an OpenAI spokesperson:

“We are deeply saddened by Mr. Raine’s passing, and our thoughts are with his family. ChatGPT includes safeguards such as directing people to crisis helplines and referring them to real-world resources. While these safeguards work best in common, short exchanges, we’ve learned over time that they can sometimes become less reliable in long interactions where parts of the model’s safety training may degrade. Safeguards are strongest when every element works as intended, and we will continually improve on them. Guided by experts and grounded in responsibility to the people who use our tools, we’re working to make ChatGPT more supportive in moments of crisis by making it easier to reach emergency services, helping people connect with trusted contacts, and strengthening protections for teens.”

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