Conrad Saam was the sixth employee at AVVO. Ben and Conrad discuss what AVVO did very well and what it stumbled into attempting. Conrad is the founder and CEO of Mockingbird Marketing, a company that not only builds websites but, more importantly, helps lawyers manage and understand tracking from lead to dollars earned. Ben and Conrad chat, one entrepreneur to another, about some of the challenges that small businesses face today.

Conrad is the founder of Mockingbird Marketing, a legal focused online marketing agency. As well as being a respected marketer, Conrad is also an accomplished author with multiple published books. Conrad is also very active as a member of multiple ABA’s Practice Management marketing committees. For more information visit https://mockingbird.marketing/

Ben Glass is a nationally recognized personal injury and long-term disability insurance attorney in Fairfax, VA. Since 2005, Ben Glass and Great Legal Marketing have been helping solo and small firm lawyers make more money, get more clients and still get home in time for dinner. We call this TheGLMTribe.com

What Makes The GLM Tribe Special?

In short, we are the only organization within the "business builder for lawyers" space that is led by two practicing lawyers.

One thing we're sure you've noticed is that despite the variety of options within our space, no one else is mixing
the actual practice of law with business building in the way that we are.

There are no other organizations who understand the highs and lows of running a small law firm and are engaged in talking to real clients. That is what sets GLM apart from every other organization, and it is why we have had loyal members that have been with us for two-decades.