On this episode of Mind The Gap, Emma Turner and Jon Hutchinson are joined by Liz Pemberton, renowned as "The Black Nursery Manager" and a transformative voice in early years education. Liz reflects on her journey from managing family-run nurseries to establishing her anti-racist training and consultancy company. She delves into the significance of cultural safety, psychological safety, and her pioneering "Four Es" framework for embedding anti-racist practices in educational settings. Together, they explore how educators can foster belonging, challenge racial biases, and create joyful, inclusive spaces for all children. Liz also discusses her experiences navigating societal resistance, tackling "culture wars," and the importance of professional love in the Early Years Foundation Stage (EYFS). This thought-provoking conversation emphasizes the power of intentional practice, collective action, and unlearning in shaping equitable early education.

Liz Pemberton is an award-winning educator, trainer, and advocate for anti-racist practice in Early Years education. She managed a Birmingham-based nursery that became a community hub, emphasizing anti-racist pedagogy and belonging through her "Four Es" framework. A qualified secondary teacher and lecturer with a Master’s in Early Childhood Studies, Liz has influenced countless educators, parents, and policymakers through her training, writing, and social media presence. Recognized for her contributions, Liz’s accolades include being named one of Serendipity Institute’s 100 Black Women Who Have Made a Mark and winning multiple awards for her commitment to equity and education. Check out her website https://www.theblacknurserymanager.com/

Emma Turner FCCT is a school improvement advisor, education consultant, trainer and author. She has almost three decades of primary teaching, headship and leadership experience across the sector, working and leading in both MATs and LAs. She works nationally and internationally on school improvement including at single school level and at scale. She has a particular interest in research informed practice in the primary phase, early career development, and CPD design. Follow Emma on X ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@emma_turner75⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Jon Hutchinson is a former assistant headteacher of Reach Academy Feltham and is now a Director at the Reach Foundation. He has taught across primary and secondary and HE. In his spare time, Jon runs ⁠⁠www.meno.acacdemy⁠⁠, a platform with free videos to support primary teachers to build their subject knowledge. Follow Jon on X ⁠⁠⁠⁠@jon_hutchinson_⁠⁠ or Bluesky ⁠⁠@jonhutchinson.bksy.social⁠

This podcast is produced by Haringey Education Partnership. Find out more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://haringeyeducationpartnership.co.uk/