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The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens

Jane Muncke: "Perils of Plastic Packaging”

Jan 10, 2024
Toxicology scientist Jane Muncke joins Nate to discuss the effects of ultra processed foods and their packaging on our health. Topics include plastic pollution, the history and impact of food packaging, risks of migration in plastic food packaging, endocrine disrupting chemicals and obesity, coalitions and partnerships in food packaging, interdisciplinary collaboration in eco-toxicology, efforts to cast doubt on the impact of plastics, and the importance of relationships and safe food packaging.
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Quick takeaways

  • Plastic packaging poses major environmental concerns due to its persistence in the environment and the potential migration of chemicals into food.
  • The use of plastic packaging in centralized food processing facilities raises concerns about the reliance on heavily processed foods and the challenge of transitioning away from plastic without compromising food security.

Deep dives

Plastics as an Excuse for Continued Fossil Carbon Dependency

Plastics are often seen as a backup plan for the fossil carbon industry, allowing them to continue extracting and using fossil fuels. This creates a modern, technologically-intensive version of using all parts of a buffalo, but with the heavy fractions of fossil carbon being wasted. While the environmental dangers of plastics are becoming more well-known, the investment in plastic production is driven by the desire to maintain the use of fossil fuels. This investment poses challenges for big food brands as they try to reduce plastic waste and transition to more sustainable alternatives.

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