How To Win Climate Arguments And Influence People (w/ Dr. Genevieve Guenther)
Jul 10, 2024
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Dr. Genevieve Guenther discusses combating climate change myths, the importance of transformative action language, and the need to stop using the 'India and China' excuse. She explores the costs of clean energy, challenges in climate communication, and the potential savings through decarbonization. The podcast also touches on the risks of Atlantic current collapse and China's climate leadership compared to the US.
Sharper language advocating for transformative action against climate change myths.
Reframe decarbonization as investments with long-term financial benefits.
Effective communication strategies are essential to inspire climate action and policy changes.
Deep dives
China and India Leading in Clean Energy Manufacturing and Deployment
China leads the world in clean energy manufacturing and deployment, strategically investing in emerging industries like solar and batteries. With detailed policy plans to cap emissions by 2030 and achieve net-zero by 2060, China aims to dominate the global market and serve as an example of a decarbonized ecological civilization. Contrastingly, the historic emissions and lack of investments in clean energy in the U.S. hinder progress and perpetuate myths surrounding China and India's contribution to the climate crisis.
Implications of Misinformation on Climate Change Trajectory
Misinformation perpetuated by fossil fuel interests and right-wing commentators, suggesting that the world is on a better warming trajectory than reality reflects, can lead to complacency and hinder further climate activism and policy. While projections may have been modified to indicate lower levels of warming, the impact of key climate drivers, such as the Atlantic overturning circulation, slowing down, can have catastrophic consequences if emissions are not phased out rapidly.
Challenging the Notion of Costs in Decarbonization Efforts
Decarbonization efforts are often misconstrued as costs rather than investments. By reframing these efforts as investments that will result in significant savings on energy, healthcare, and overall well-being, the narrative around decarbonization can shift towards recognizing the financial benefits and positive economic impacts, rather than focusing solely on short-term outlays.
The Language of Climate Politics and Its Impact on Public Discourse
The way climate change is communicated and discussed in public discourse, particularly through strategic messaging and redefining terms, can significantly influence public perception and action. By introducing a new discourse that emphasizes the urgency of phasing out fossil fuels and aligning messaging with climate science, individuals can effectively engage in conversations that drive climate action and policy changes.
Inspiring Climate Action Through Effective Communication Strategies
Effective communication strategies that dismantle climate change myths and encourage informed discussions play a crucial role in inspiring climate action. By equipping individuals with communication tools and new terms to address climate challenges, conversations around climate crisis can lead to increased support for phasing out fossil fuels and advancing sustainable solutions, fostering collective efforts towards a more sustainable future.
Bad actors continue to push fake talking points to obscure the truth on climate change and slow down action. So how we combat these common myths and inspire people to do more? That's the focus of today's show and a new book by our guest, Dr. Genevieve Guenther. In her new book, The Language of Climate Politics: Fossil-Fuel Propaganda and How to Fight It, Guenther argues that climate leaders should use sharper language that argues for transformative action and a windfall of benefits in the face of the massive, destructive threat of climate change. She joins the show to discuss how we talk about the costs of clean energy, why the "India and China" excuse needs to stop in American climate discource, and why dramatic drops in clean energy costs have lead some to be complacent on climate.
Genevieve Guenther s the founding director of End Climate Silence and affiliate faculty at The New School, where she sits on the board of the Tishman Environment and Design Center. Her research has appeared in both scholarly journals and media outlets such as Scientific American, The New Republic, and MSNBC. You can purchase The Language of Climate Politics: Fossil-Fuel Propaganda and How to Fight It here.
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