

Episode 5: Ben Tarnoff and John Jeremiah Sullivan
Jul 4, 2025
Ben Tarnoff, a writer and technologist known for his book on Mark Twain, dives into Twain's literary evolution in 1860s San Francisco, highlighting how the frontier experience shaped his voice and laid the groundwork for stand-up comedy. Meanwhile, John Jeremiah Sullivan discusses Twain's cultural revival and shares a fascinating discovery: a lost eulogy and its writer, Adele Amelia Gleason. Together, they explore the intertwining of humor, literary ambition, and the rich tapestry of American identity forged in that vibrant era.
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San Francisco As Literary Catalyst
- San Francisco's rapid growth, isolation, and international mix created unique material for American literature.
- Ben Tarnoff argues those local conditions helped writers invent a distinct, vernacular American voice.
Frontier Humor Became Literary Strength
- Twain used frontier and Southwestern humor as raw material to craft a new American literary voice.
- Tarnoff contends that Twain turned what he feared as a weakness into the basis of lasting literary genius.
The Jumping Frog Breakthrough
- Twain overheard a Calaveras frog story while in a mining camp and struggled for years to render it on the page.
- Its publication became his national breakthrough, showing the power of voice over raw plot.