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Agile for Humans with Ryan Ripley and Todd Miller
Breaking the SAFe: Reviewing Marty Cagan's Site on SAFe and Scaling Agile
Mar 28, 2023
27:31
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Agile experts Yuval Yeret and Ryan Ripley join to discuss Marty Cagan's perspectives on SAFe and scaling Agile. They explore pain points of scaling technology, compatibility of Agile frameworks with big tech culture, and the comprehensive solution needed for a successful transition. The conversation delves into challenges of scaling Agile, the role of Scrum Masters vs Safe Program Consultants, the importance of technology architecture, and the need to focus on outcomes. They also discuss presenting SAFe principles and comparing them to Scrum.
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- Successful companies focus on agility and understand Agile principles, whether or not they use SAFE.
- Solid tech excellence, architecture, and build pipelines are crucial prerequisites for successful scaling, even with a comprehensive framework like SAFE.
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Marty Kagan's Perspective on SAFE Implementation
Marty Kagan's post on scaling agile questions the use of SAFE and argues for a more product-centric approach. While Marty acknowledges the pain points and challenges in producing technology at scale, he believes that SAFE may not be suitable for companies that have already embraced agility and have the technical prowess to empower product teams without relying on excessive coordination mechanisms. He highlights that successful companies, like Google and Facebook, focus on agility and understand the principles of Agile, whether or not they use SAFE. Marty suggests that the target audience for SAFE implementation is the majority of organizations still transitioning towards agility, as they require a comprehensive solution, including case studies, certifications, and a business movement around it. He emphasizes the need for strong tech excellence, architecture, and build pipelines before considering a transformation to ensure successful scaling.
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