The Virtual Couch How Can Change Be Funny, Scary, and Uncomfortable… and Still Be Necessary for Growth? (with Mackie Overbay)
Tony and his daughter Mackie (@beautybymackie) catch up on a lot of life. Since the last time they hit record, Mackie has navigated big career shifts, health challenges, and new adventures. Tony has faced major surgery and the loss of his mom (Mackie’s grandmother).
Together, they dive into the messy, uncomfortable, and often hilarious realities of change — why our brains resist it, why it feels so daunting in the moment, and why it’s actually the engine of growth. From dad jokes about Gen Z slang to real talk about autoimmune diagnoses, resilience, and reinventing yourself, this conversation is equal parts laughter, honesty, and insight.
If you’re navigating your own season of change, this episode will remind you that discomfort isn’t just survivable — it’s what shapes who you’re becoming. Follow Mackie on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/beautybymackie or Tiktok https://www.tiktok.com/@beautybymackie or subscribe to "The Mind, The Mirror and Me" wherever you listen to podcasts!
00:00 Welcome and Introduction
00:30 The Struggle with Change
02:16 Introducing Mackey McKinley
02:44 Life Updates and Major Changes
02:58 The Humor in Processing Change
03:25 Practical Gifts and Life Lessons
03:32 Social Media and Upcoming Events
04:10 Conversation with Mackey Begins
04:17 Casual Banter and Podcast Revival
05:56 Mackey's Career Journey
10:17 Health Challenges and Lifestyle Changes
28:21 The Concept of Healthy Ego
30:49 Defensive Ego and Feelings of Inferiority
31:10 Insecurity in Professional Settings
31:18 Hypersensitivity and Narcissistic Traits
32:01 Building a Healthy Ego
32:39 Passion vs. Obligation in Work
34:02 Personal Growth and Change
36:20 The Fear of the Unknown
38:37 The Illusion of Control
39:19 Coping with Discomfort and Growth
40:12 Therapy and Emotional Support
49:13 The Power of Pausing and Acceptance
54:13 Mackey's Wellness Journey
56:46 Conclusion and Final Thoughts