Gretchen Rubin: ...that outer order creates inner calm

On this episode, we talk to Gretchen Rubin, the best-selling author of  "Outer Order, Inner Calm: Declutter and Organize to Make More Room for Happiness".  She is one of today’s most influential observers of happiness and human nature. In this interview, she shares insights, strategies, stories, and tips that will help you understand yourself and create a better, more organized life. Her website is https://gretchenrubin.com/

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