Truly AI Native Companies with Sebastian Graf

Sebastian Graf explains the coming rise of AI native companies. He shares four safety pillars for autonomous firms: code freeze, CICD compliance, regulatory model training, and harm-reduction finance. The episode mixes technical detail, a real Anthropic experiment, and broad governance concerns about trust and social impact.

Top 3 Key Learnings

• AI native company pillars: Four safety pillars: code freeze, CICD, regulatory RL training, and harm reduction mechanisms.
• Test and freeze code: Freeze codebases and run automated tests to ensure predictable behavior and regulatory compliance.
• Trust via cost and trials: Lower cost and stepwise use build trust; people try low-risk services first then adopt more.

About Sebastian Graf

Sebastian Graf describes himself as an engineer by profession, but an educator at heart. In his work as an engineer, he is driven by the belief that technology should lift everyone, enabling people to live extraordinary lives in extraordinary ways. He acknowledges that this is challenging in a world where many technologies are built with incentives that divide society, exploit the environment, and widen wealth inequality. Sebastian is committed to reversing these incentives. His mission is to empower imagination and drive the creation of a positive social, environmental, and technological future that he believes is entirely within reach.

Sebastian's linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sebastiangraf1/

Chapters:

0:00 - Intro 0:35 - Business Transformation Pitch Overview 1:09 - Sebastian Graf's Background and Expertise 2:39 - Sebastian's Mission with AI Native Companies 4:37 - Defining AI Native Companies 8:33 - Four Pillars of AI Native Companies 18:35 - Anthropic's Vending Machine Experiment 22:24 - Engineering Resilience in AI Native Companies 26:31 - Building Trust in AI Native Operations 30:47 - Quickfire Round and Closing Thoughts 34:45 - Key Takeaways and Final Reflections

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About the host:

Gregorio Uglioni is a seasoned transformation leader with over 15 years of experience shaping business and digital change, consistently delivering service excellence and measurable impact. As an Associate Partner at Forward, he is recognized for his strategic vision, operational expertise, and ability to drive sustainable growth. A respected keynote speaker and host of the well-known global podcast Business Transformation Pitch with the CX Goalkeeper, Gregorio energizes and inspires organizations worldwide with his customer-centric approach to innovation.

Follow Gregorio Uglioni on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregorio-uglioni/

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