

Business Transformation Pitch with The CX Goalkeeper
Gregorio Uglioni
Digital & Business Transformation | Customer Experience | Leadership | Innovation
This podcast goes beyond theory. It brings you real-world experiences from best-in-class experts who explore the intersection of people, technology, and measurable business results.
Hosted by Gregorio Uglioni—global transformation leader, keynote speaker, and recognized authority in Customer Experience (CX)—each episode features insightful conversations with top executives, innovators, and changemakers.
Discover how today's leaders are accelerating transformation, leading with purpose, driving innovation, enabling human-centered growth, and creating lasting value across customer, employee, and operational dimensions.
Smart insights. Bold ideas. Real impact.
Your weekly pitch for a smarter way to lead and grow.
This podcast goes beyond theory. It brings you real-world experiences from best-in-class experts who explore the intersection of people, technology, and measurable business results.
Hosted by Gregorio Uglioni—global transformation leader, keynote speaker, and recognized authority in Customer Experience (CX)—each episode features insightful conversations with top executives, innovators, and changemakers.
Discover how today's leaders are accelerating transformation, leading with purpose, driving innovation, enabling human-centered growth, and creating lasting value across customer, employee, and operational dimensions.
Smart insights. Bold ideas. Real impact.
Your weekly pitch for a smarter way to lead and grow.
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Jan 25, 2026 • 37min
Customer Obsessed: What Really Sets Winners Apart with Marbue Brown
Marbue Brown defines customer obsession versus customer focus. He explains you start with the customer and work backwards. He contrasts companies that work backwards from product or profits. He draws on Amazon practices where the question, "what is the competition doing?" rarely comes up. He outlines five levels on the customer obsession continuum: customer indifferent, aware, focused, centric, and obsessed. He gives cultural examples like hashtag thank you Thursday used by leaders to recognize employees and reinforce customer priorities across the organization. Marbue explains tools to measure and act on customer obsession. He describes the customer obsession barometer built with Dr. John Hughes. It scores nine practices from his book Blueprint for Customer Obsession. The barometer separates top tier companies and identifies "obsessed customers" who recommend and repurchase. He gives Chase as a success story. Chase links employee obsession with customer results through listening, rapid actioning of feedback, branch visits, and recognition. About Marbue Brown Marbue Brown is founder of The Customer Obsession Advantage, a firm dedicated to helping companies achieve transcendent business results through Customer Obsession. He is an accomplished customer experience (CX) executive with a track record of thought leadership and signature business results at some of the most iconic companies on the planet, including JP Morgan Chase, Amazon.com, Microsoft Corporation, and Cisco Systems. As a CX leader, he guided the Chase Consumer Bank to record performance in the JD Power Retail Banking Study, NPS and branch satisfaction. He transformed the Andon Cord mechanism at Amazon.com from a primarily manually triggered to system to a primarily automated system triggered by machine learning and statistical models. The Andon Cord is one of Amazon.com's most significant mechanisms it uses to personify its Customer Obsession culture. Marbue devised and codified the NSAT Improvement Approach at Microsoft, which was widely used by business units to dramatically improve CX as well as international subsidiaries who won nationwide awards in the process. He co-authored seminal articles about customer experience measurements that are widely cited in industry. He is a sought after speaker and published author on customer experience, business strategy and economic policy. Relevant links: www.customerobsession.net Chapters: 0:00 - Intro 0:35 - Career Highlights and Key Achievements 4:13 - Winning in Customer-Centric Roles 9:13 - Understanding Customer Obsession 11:42 - Customer Obsession Continuum Explained 16:45 - Measuring Customer Obsession with Barometer 22:11 - Success Story: Chase's Customer and Employee Focus 32:53 - Key Takeaways on Customer Policies 35:12 - Conclusion and Farewell Please, hit the follow button and leave your feedback: Apple Podcast: https://www.cxgoalkeeper.com/apple Spotify: https://www.cxgoalkeeper.com/spotify About the host: Gregorio Uglioni is a seasoned transformation leader with over 15 years of experience shaping business and digital change, consistently delivering service excellence and measurable impact. As an Associate Partner at Forward, he is recognized for his strategic vision, operational expertise, and ability to drive sustainable growth. A respected keynote speaker and host of the well-known global podcast Business Transformation Pitch with the CX Goalkeeper, Gregorio energizes and inspires organizations worldwide with his customer-centric approach to innovation. Follow Gregorio Uglioni on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregorio-uglioni/

Jan 18, 2026 • 29min
Fans favorite: a blueprint for creating the experience-led enterprise - The Center Of Experience with Greg Kihlstrom
Greg Kihlström shares groundbreaking insights into how businesses can become experience-led enterprises. With real-world examples and a focus on innovation, Greg discusses digital transformation, agile methodologies, and the pivotal role of customer and employee experiences in driving success. This is a must-listen for anyone passionate about transforming organizations and delivering exceptional value to customers and teams alike. About the Guest Greg Kihlström is a best-selling author, speaker, and entrepreneur, and serves as an advisor and consultant to top companies on marketing technology, marketing operations, and digital transformation initiatives. He has worked with some of the world's top brands, including Adidas, Coca-Cola, FedEx, HP, Marriott, Nationwide, Victoria's Secret, and Toyota. He is a multiple-time Co-Founder and C-level leader, leading his digital experience agency to be acquired in 2017, successfully exited an HR technology platform provider he co-founded in 2020, and led a SaaS startup to be acquired by a leading edge computing company in 2021. He currently advises and sits on the Board of a marketing technology startup. Relevant Links https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregkihlstrom https://www.instagram.com/theagilebrand https://www.gregkihlstrom.com Episode Summary - The Top 3 Key Learnings Four Pillars of Transformation: Effective digital transformation hinges on integrating people, processes, platforms, and data. While technology matters, success ultimately depends on how well organizations address human and procedural challenges. Agile for Transformation: Agile methodologies can look different for every organization. Focus on principles like collaboration, adaptability, and delivering business value, rather than rigidly adhering to predefined methods. Return on Experience: Investing in customer and employee experiences yields measurable benefits, such as increased customer loyalty, higher lifetime value, and improved organizational efficiency. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome 00:33 Greg Kihlström's Background and Career 01:55 Values Driving Professional Life 02:54 Digital Transformation Challenges 05:11 Measuring Return on Experience 09:23 Implementing Agile Methodologies 14:10 Practical Tips for Digital Transformation 16:47 AI in Digital Transformation 22:14 Future of Customer Experience 24:23 Conclusion and Final Thoughts Please, hit the follow button and leave your feedback: Apple Podcast: https://www.cxgoalkeeper.com/apple Spotify: https://www.cxgoalkeeper.com/spotify About the host: Gregorio Uglioni is a seasoned transformation leader with over 15 years of experience shaping business and digital change, consistently delivering service excellence and measurable impact. As an Associate Partner at Forward, he is recognized for his strategic vision, operational expertise, and ability to drive sustainable growth. A respected keynote speaker and host of the well-known global podcast Business Transformation Pitch with the CX Goalkeeper, Gregorio energizes and inspires organizations worldwide with his customer-centric approach to innovation. Follow Gregorio Uglioni on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregorio-uglioni/ Podcast webpage: https://www.cxgaolkeeper.com/podcast

Jan 11, 2026 • 37min
Truly AI Native Companies with Sebastian Graf
Sebastian Graf explains the coming rise of AI native companies. He shares four safety pillars for autonomous firms: code freeze, CICD compliance, regulatory model training, and harm-reduction finance. The episode mixes technical detail, a real Anthropic experiment, and broad governance concerns about trust and social impact. Top 3 Key Learnings AI native company pillars: Four safety pillars: code freeze, CICD, regulatory RL training, and harm reduction mechanisms. Test and freeze code: Freeze codebases and run automated tests to ensure predictable behavior and regulatory compliance. Trust via cost and trials: Lower cost and stepwise use build trust; people try low-risk services first then adopt more. About Sebastian Graf Sebastian Graf describes himself as an engineer by profession, but an educator at heart. In his work as an engineer, he is driven by the belief that technology should lift everyone, enabling people to live extraordinary lives in extraordinary ways. He acknowledges that this is challenging in a world where many technologies are built with incentives that divide society, exploit the environment, and widen wealth inequality. Sebastian is committed to reversing these incentives. His mission is to empower imagination and drive the creation of a positive social, environmental, and technological future that he believes is entirely within reach. Sebastian's linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sebastiangraf1/ Chapters: 0:00 - Intro 0:35 - Business Transformation Pitch Overview 1:09 - Sebastian Graf's Background and Expertise 2:39 - Sebastian's Mission with AI Native Companies 4:37 - Defining AI Native Companies 8:33 - Four Pillars of AI Native Companies 18:35 - Anthropic's Vending Machine Experiment 22:24 - Engineering Resilience in AI Native Companies 26:31 - Building Trust in AI Native Operations 30:47 - Quickfire Round and Closing Thoughts 34:45 - Key Takeaways and Final Reflections Resources: Please, hit the follow button and leave your feedback: Apple Podcast: https://www.cxgoalkeeper.com/apple Spotify: https://www.cxgoalkeeper.com/spotify About the host: Gregorio Uglioni is a seasoned transformation leader with over 15 years of experience shaping business and digital change, consistently delivering service excellence and measurable impact. As an Associate Partner at Forward, he is recognized for his strategic vision, operational expertise, and ability to drive sustainable growth. A respected keynote speaker and host of the well-known global podcast Business Transformation Pitch with the CX Goalkeeper, Gregorio energizes and inspires organizations worldwide with his customer-centric approach to innovation. Follow Gregorio Uglioni on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregorio-uglioni/ Mostra meno

Jan 5, 2026 • 17min
Redefining leadership at the intersection of transformation & technology with Fabian Ringwald - Live from Lead26
This interview,Live from LEAD-26 in Zurich, links real leadership lessons to lived experience. Fabian, a CIO and ultra runner, talks limits, psychological safety, and practical steps. He also shares a clear, cautious view on generative AI and a smart fast follower strategy for regulated organizations. Key Learnings: Admit leadership limits: Openly share small, real limits with your team to build reflection and performance. Psychological safety matters: Create a safe team space so people speak up and help cover leadership gaps. Use smart fast follower: Experiment early, then buy enterprise-ready solutions to avoid costly long-term build and maintenance. Summary: Fabian Ringwald is the CIO of a Swiss health insurance company. He says they have the most satisfied customers in the industry. He is also a board member at lead 26 and helps shape conference content and speaker selection. Outside work he runs ultra trails. He runs over 100 kilometers and gains more than 6,000 meters of altitude. These runs can take more than 20 hours and include day and night. Night is more challenging. The long runs teach self-leadership and a clear view of personal limits. Fabian argues that every leader has limits. He says hiding limits wastes energy because close colleagues already see them. He encourages leaders to share limits openly with their teams. Open discussion builds self-reflection and helps form a high performance team. Teams can then help fill leadership gaps. He highlights psychological safety as the key trait that separates good leaders from great leaders. He recommends starting small when opening up. Share a minor limitation first, set an example, and scale openness gradually over time. Fabian says AI is not the solution for everything. He explains generative AI is a statistical tool and is not suited for fully deterministic tasks. He sees strong potential in areas like detecting anomalies on MRI or CT images, but he warns against using generative AI for direct medical advice. His company follows a smart fast follower strategy: experiment early with startups, then adopt enterprise-ready solutions rather than build long-lived custom systems. To keep agility, get top-down alignment with the board and enable bottom-up experiments with LLMs or ChatGPT for hands-on learning. About Fabian Ringwald: CIO of SWICA - the leading Swiss health insurer with the most happy customers Prior: digital transformation in several different industries from freight railway (SBB Cargo), energy trading (BKW), consulting (Logica) to inustrial manufacturing (Siemens) and Ravensburger, the well known jigsaw puzzle company. Chapters: 0:00 - Intro 0:35 - CIO's Role in Health Insurance 1:12 - Leadership Lessons from Ultra Running 3:06 - Identifying Leadership Limits 4:21 - Creating Psychological Safety in Teams 5:37 - Taking Small Steps Towards Openness 7:40 - Insights from Conference Speakers 9:13 - Evaluating AI Applications in Leadership Resources Fabian Rinwald Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fabianringwald/ Please, hit the follow button and leave your feedback: Apple Podcast: https://www.cxgoalkeeper.com/apple Spotify: https://www.cxgoalkeeper.com/spotify About the host: Gregorio Uglioni is a seasoned transformation leader with over 15 years of experience shaping business and digital change, consistently delivering service excellence and measurable impact. As an Associate Partner at Forward, he is recognized for his strategic vision, operational expertise, and ability to drive sustainable growth. A respected keynote speaker and host of the well-known global podcast Business Transformation Pitch with the CX Goalkeeper, Gregorio energizes and inspires organizations worldwide with his customer-centric approach to innovation. Follow Gregorio Uglioni on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregorio-uglioni/

Dec 29, 2025 • 11min
#273: Redefining leadership at the intersection of transformation & technology with Stephan Siegrist
Live from LEAD-26 in Zurich. Stephan Siegrist is a professional alpinist. He says leadership means taking the lead when situations are uncomfortable. In mountaineering one person often needs the next rope length and must make small decisions by the centimetre and larger choices every half hour. Some choices are life threatening. On a recent Nepal expedition his youngest team member developed high altitude pulmonary sickness. The medical problem required bringing the person down quickly. Stefan decided the team must bring him down. He said the most important thing is that everyone comes back home safely. Stefan spoke about risk and crisis. He said if you do not take any risk you do not get forward. He advised to push to the limit but not until it starts bleeding. Over years climbers develop knowledge to find that balance. About Stefan Siegrist: Professional Alpinist, Climber, Public Speaker. Stephan loves the mountains and he loves sharing the adventure Resources his webpage: https://stephan-siegrist.ch/ Please, hit the follow button and leave your feedback: Apple Podcast: https://www.cxgoalkeeper.com/apple Spotify: https://www.cxgoalkeeper.com/spotify Follow Gregorio Uglioni on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregorio-uglioni/ Gregorio Uglioni is a seasoned transformation leader with over 15 years of experience shaping business and digital change, consistently delivering service excellence and measurable impact. As an Associate Partner at Forward, he is recognized for his strategic vision, operational expertise, and ability to drive sustainable growth. A respected keynote speaker and host of the well-known global podcast Business Transformation Pitch with the CX Goalkeeper, Gregorio energizes and inspires organizations worldwide with his customer-centric approach to innovation.

Dec 22, 2025 • 28min
#272: Different Beats Better: Branding That Sells Without Selling with David Brier
Hear branding advice that shifts focus from "better" to "different." David Brier explains how branding is the art of differentiation. He shows why brands that only tweak visuals fail, and shares real cases: a failed Jaguar rebrand and a successful Napa Fresh relaunch. Learn practical steps and imagination tools. About David Brier David Brier, known by many as "The Brandfather," is the recipient of 320 international awards and the Presidential Ambassador for Global Entrepreneurship medallion, who has generated over $9 billion in brand value across four decades for companies from startups to Fortune 500s. The bestselling author of "Brand Intervention" and "Rich Brand Poor Brand," Grant Cardone has praised him as "a branding genius" and "brilliant with branding" by Shark Tank's Daymond John. Resources Rising above the noise : https://www.risingabovethenoise.com Please, hit the follow button and leave your feedback: Apple Podcast: https://www.cxgoalkeeper.com/apple Spotify: https://www.cxgoalkeeper.com/spotify Follow Gregorio Uglioni on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregorio-uglioni/ Gregorio Uglioni is a seasoned transformation leader with over 15 years of experience shaping business and digital change, consistently delivering service excellence and measurable impact. As an Associate Partner at Forward, he is recognized for his strategic vision, operational expertise, and ability to drive sustainable growth. A respected keynote speaker and host of the well-known global podcast Business Transformation Pitch with the CX Goalkeeper, Gregorio energizes and inspires organizations worldwide with his customer-centric approach to innovation.

Dec 15, 2025 • 21min
#271: How BSI Software Builds the Future: Data, AI Agents and Digital Sovereignty with Markus Brunold
This episode explains how BSI builds for data, AI agents, and digital sovereignty. Markus Brunold shares the company mission, cloud and AI model choices, and how human roles and AI agents work together. Hear concrete examples and product thinking for regulated industries like financial services. About Markus Brunold Markus Brunold is CEO of BSI Software and is responsible for the company's long-term business development. With the BSI Customer Suite, BSI Software offers the only European holistic CRM and CX solution that deeply integrates AI while guaranteeing data protection, sovereignty, and flexibility. For Markus, customer centricity is the guiding principle of his entrepreneurial activities. BSI Software is a market leader in its key industries, combining deep industry knowledge with technological excellence. Resources BSI Software: https://www.bsi-software.com/en Please, hit the follow button and leave your feedback: Apple Podcast: https://www.cxgoalkeeper.com/apple Spotify: https://www.cxgoalkeeper.com/spotify Follow Gregorio Uglioni on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregorio-uglioni/ Gregorio Uglioni is a seasoned transformation leader with over 15 years of experience shaping business and digital change, consistently delivering service excellence and measurable impact. As an Associate Partner at Forward, he is recognized for his strategic vision, operational expertise, and ability to drive sustainable growth. A respected keynote speaker and host of the well-known global podcast Business Transformation Pitch with the CX Goalkeeper, Gregorio energizes and inspires organizations worldwide with his customer-centric approach to innovation.

Dec 8, 2025 • 28min
#270: Why Human Voices Are the Secret to Digital Transformation with Alex Wunschel
Learn why human voices drive digital transformation. Alex Wunschel explains how voice builds trust, shapes culture, and makes leaders relatable. Get concrete tips to speak authentically, train voice skills, and embed audio into internal communication. Hear real examples and pitfalls to avoid in corporate communication. About Alexander Wunschel Alexander Wunschel is a founder, podcast pioneer, and producer with over 17 years of experience in the audio industry. He is the owner and executive of Klangstelle, a podcast company that offers the finest audio pieces from strategy and conception to production and marketing. He has produced and managed over 1.000 episodes in over 35 podcasts with about 8 million downloads and streams for clients such as Telekom, Fujitsu, Playboy, Starbucks, Datev, GAD, Microsoft, and many more. He is also a strategy consultant for digital media, a keynote speaker. He is passionate about the impact of sound, immersive and augmented audio, voice user interface, privacy, security, OSINT, MarTech, AdTech, meditation, and cooking. Resources Klangstelle: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexanderwunschel/ Please, hit the follow button and leave your feedback: Apple Podcast: https://www.cxgoalkeeper.com/apple Spotify: https://www.cxgoalkeeper.com/spotify Follow Gregorio Uglioni on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregorio-uglioni/ Gregorio Uglioni is a seasoned transformation leader with over 15 years of experience shaping business and digital change, consistently delivering service excellence and measurable impact. As an Associate Partner at Forward, he is recognized for his strategic vision, operational expertise, and ability to drive sustainable growth. A respected keynote speaker and host of the well-known global podcast Business Transformation Pitch with the CX Goalkeeper, Gregorio energizes and inspires organizations worldwide with his customer-centric approach to innovation.

Dec 1, 2025 • 32min
#269: School Needs a CX Makeover: Here is How with Leonard Sommer
Leonard Sommer argues schools are stuck in an industrial model and kill creativity. He shares proven examples and methods to redesign student experience. Learn why culture, not curriculum, matters and how businesses can partner with schools to prepare future workers and protect human creativity in the AI era. About Leonard Sommer Since 2014, Leonard Sommer has been actively promoting creativity in education through the Classroom Thinktank e.V., a non-profit initiative he founded. He is also involved on a voluntary basis with several educational organizations, including Education Y (Board Member), Wir für Schule (Advisory Board), and DigitalSchoolStory (Brand Ambassador). Additionally, he is the initiator and curator of FUTUROMUNDO EDU, the International Future Festival of Learning. Leo is the author of the professional book "Wenn Schule auf Ideen bringt – 100 Kreative denken Lernen neu" (Vahlen Verlag, Munich). He is regularly invited as a keynote speaker and workshop facilitator on the topics of creativity in education and future-oriented learning. He has spoken or led workshops at various training programs, events, and global institutions. Resources FUTUROMUNDO : https://www.linkedin.com/in/leonardsommer/ Please, hit the follow button and leave your feedback: Apple Podcast: https://www.cxgoalkeeper.com/apple Spotify: https://www.cxgoalkeeper.com/spotify Follow Gregorio Uglioni on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregorio-uglioni/ Gregorio Uglioni is a seasoned transformation leader with over 15 years of experience shaping business and digital change, consistently delivering service excellence and measurable impact. As an Associate Partner at Forward, he is recognized for his strategic vision, operational expertise, and ability to drive sustainable growth. A respected keynote speaker and host of the well-known global podcast Business Transformation Pitch with the CX Goalkeeper, Gregorio energizes and inspires organizations worldwide with his customer-centric approach to innovation.

Nov 24, 2025 • 26min
#268: AI Won't Fix Bad CX But It Will Expose It with Rajat Chawla
This episode shows how AI magnifies both strengths and gaps in customer experience. Rajat Chawla explains why AI exposes bad CX, how invisible effortless experiences look, and what leaders must do on culture, accountability, and journey design using Taco Bell, KLM, and Starbucks examples. About Rajat Chawla Some highlights about Rajat Chawla: - Asia's first Certified Customer Experience professional. - Founder of Koyopo, a CX and leadership consulting firm. - Worked with global brands like Google and Cisco. - Over two decades of experience in leadership, consulting, and coaching. - Helping organizations build customer-centric cultures that drive loyalty and growth. - Gallup-certified strengths coach, aligning authentic strengths with CX strategies. Resources Koyopo: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chawlarajat/ Please, hit the follow button and leave your feedback: Apple Podcast: https://www.cxgoalkeeper.com/apple Spotify: https://www.cxgoalkeeper.com/spotify Follow Gregorio Uglioni on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregorio-uglioni/ Gregorio Uglioni is a seasoned transformation leader with over 15 years of experience shaping business and digital change, consistently delivering service excellence and measurable impact. As an Associate Partner at Forward, he is recognized for his strategic vision, operational expertise, and ability to drive sustainable growth. A respected keynote speaker and host of the well-known global podcast Business Transformation Pitch with the CX Goalkeeper, Gregorio energizes and inspires organizations worldwide with his customer-centric approach to innovation


