Author of The Manager's Path, Camille Fournier, joins the podcast to talk about her varied career in software engineering, the evolution of management practices in tech, Founder mode vs Manager mode, and her recent interest in platform engineering. 02:00 Doing it for the money vs the passion 07:00 Management in startups vs. big companies 14:45 The qualities of good managers 23:00 The legacy of The Manager's Path 7 years on 31:00 Camille's current focus on platform engineering 39:00 Priority Zero: effectively offboarding as an executive Camille's recommendation: Long Island Compromise by Taffy Brodesser-Akner Camille will also be speaking on stage LDX3 London on June 15-16, 2025. ⁠Tickets are available now.